Comments on: Putzmeister pumps & Fukushima exclusion-zone road trip
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip/
Comments on MetaFilter post Putzmeister pumps & Fukushima exclusion-zone road tripSun, 10 Apr 2011 11:58:21 -0800Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:58:21 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Putzmeister pumps & Fukushima exclusion-zone road trip
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip
<a href="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1375120/Japan-Remote-controlled-concrete-pump-delivered-Fukushima-nuclear-plant.html">Putzmeister pumps</a> <a href="http://www.thestreet.com/story/11077371/1/worlds-largest-concrete-boom-pumps-en-route-to-japan-to-help-cool-nuclear-reactors.html">Fukushima up</a>. <br /><br />The German-made <a href="http://www.putzmeisteramerica.com/products/boompumps/70z/index.cfm">Putzmeister 70Z 'Juggernaut'</a> is the worlds largest truck-mounted boom pump. Normally used for pouring concrete in high places (<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RitNmclyvgA&feature=related">Bay Bridge San Fran</a>), but also for <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUg5FBrAwYk">pumping water</a>, the boom can reach over 220 feet, and can be remotely operated from 1.5 miles away. An earlier model the 52Z was used in 1986 to entomb the <a href="http://www.putzmeistermedia.com/Other/Chernobyl_Site%20Report1.pdf">Chernobyl</a> <a href="http://www.putzmeistermedia.com/Other/Chernobyl_Site%20Report2.pdf">reactor</a> in concrete, setting a record at the time for the most volume of concrete poured. Currently, two 70Z's are being <a href="http://www.volga-dnepr.com/eng/presscentre/releases/?id=5707">flown to Japan</a> with at least 4 more on the way, two from the USA, aboard the Soviet-designed <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/An-124">Antonov An-124's</a>, the world's second largest cargo aircraft. They will be used to cool the reactors with water and, if things get critical, to entomb the reactors in concrete.
See also video (bottom of page first FPP link) of a <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=yp9iJ3pPuL8">road trip into the exclusion zone.</a>post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:54:07 -0800stbalbachFukushimaheavymachinerynuclearaccidentBy: deadmessenger
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629348
I saw one of them at the Atlanta airport Friday. My flight in from DC taxied right past the pump, which was sitting in a cargo area, waiting for the Antonov jet to arrive later that evening to fly out to Japan the next morning. Just DAMN that thing was big.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629348Sun, 10 Apr 2011 11:58:21 -0800deadmessengerBy: Xoebe
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629352
I saw a different photo of the Putzmeister pump/truck being loaded onto the Antonov An-124 yesterday. It is huge, but the thing that struck me - that airplane can <em>lift</em> that thing? Amazing.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629352Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:03:47 -0800XoebeBy: KokuRyu
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629360
<em>See also video (bottom of page first FPP link) of a road trip into the exclusion zone.</em>
I said it in the Fukushima thread, but it seems really unwise to be walking around in dirt and debris so near the power plant without any kind of protection. Besides breathing stuff in, they're also tracking radioactive containments back into their car, and back to wherever they live.
The Japanese government is about to enact a law that prohibits entry into the 20km exclusion zone. It's probably a good idea.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629360Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:11:26 -0800KokuRyuBy: East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629369
<a href="http://www.hitachi.com/New/cnews/f_110406a.pdf">Hitachi</a> is working hard to secure Reactor No. 4, but it's not as if they have a magic wand.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629369Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:16:42 -0800East Manitoba Regional Junior Kabaddi Champion '94By: spaceman_spiff
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629371
<i>Hitachi is working hard to secure Reactor No. 4, but it's not as if they have a magic wand.</i>
I can't favorite this hard enough. I'm going to need a battery-operated helper.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629371Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:19:56 -0800spaceman_spiffBy: phaedon
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629372
Man I love the name of this company. Bonus points if it's pronounced <i>Poots-meishta.</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629372Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:19:59 -0800phaedonBy: mccarty.tim
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629373
I wish articles would better emphasize that the concrete pumps are being used to pump water, and that their ability to pump concrete is something that may be done if things start to go badly, but which isn't really something they think would be necessary at the moment. I've heard from like three friends that they were planning on pumping concrete on it, when that's really not the case.
It's interesting how we get details in bits and pieces about the situation, have to translate them, and then build a coherent story about what's going on, while I have the impression in the past, we'd more get bigger chunks of developing stories delivered periodically. Chernobyl, of course, being the exception due to a coverup that meant people outside and inside the Iron Curtain were kept in the dark until it was becoming very clear something was wrong.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629373Sun, 10 Apr 2011 12:22:27 -0800mccarty.timBy: nickyskye
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629411
Nuke pr0n. Warning, primitive thinking ahead: I've noted all the phallic/sexual imagery connected with the, er,<a href="http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Shere/fukushima-nuclear-plant-japan-earthquake-2011_n_834585_80431213.html"> Fuk</a> us hima <a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Fuckushima">situation</a>: the diagrams of the, er, <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/vizpix/5529940939/">reactor</a>. The, er, <a href="http://www.rumormillnews.com/pix3/wiki_BWR_M_I_diagram.gif">containment</a>. The, er,<a href="http://makanaka.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/yomiuri-japan-fukushima-damage-diagram.jpg"> rods</a>. The <a href="http://makanaka.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/fukushima-boiling-water-reactor-bwr-basic-diagram.jpg">parts</a> of the<a href="http://tylerbaird.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/vessel.gif"> reactor</a>. Even the<a href="http://makanaka.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/yomiuri-fukushima-reactor3.jpg"> explosion</a>. <a href="http://www.inl.gov/threemileisland/i/core-damage.gif">Core damage</a>.
And now all this<a href="http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=putz"> putzing</a>, hoping it doesn't, er,<a href="http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3082/3542212906_ef0ef1f3c9.jpg"> come to this</a> or spread <a href="http://beerpla.net/wp-content/uploads/futurecast-penis.jpg"> like this</a>.
Vaguely relieved<a href="http://books.google.com/books?id=pQYAAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA17&lpg=PA17&dq=nuclear+language+and+how+we+learned+to+pat+the+bomb&source=bl&ots=_WsMWzexjX&sig=O0A_yHBaI-5r8wEifRh-3zHfrrc&hl=en&ei=9AuiTa31DcaztweB_dj0Ag&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&sqi=2&ved=0CCUQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=nuclear%20language%20and%20how%20we%20learned%20to%20pat%20the%20bomb&f=false"> others have thought about this topic too</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629411Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:09:07 -0800nickyskyeBy: schmod
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629413
I'd be very surprised if Reactor #2 (and possibly #1) <i>wasn't</i> entombed in concrete if they confirm that the core is on the floor. As far as I'm aware, there's not really very much that you can do to clean that up.
The An-124 and An-225 have both proven to be incredibly useful aircraft in disaster-relief situations. It's a shame that we don't have more of them.
The An-225 is particularly a beast -- only one was ever built (with a second partially completed). From what I can tell, the An-124 will be used to transport the smaller of the pumps to Japan, while the lone An-225 will be used to move the largest equipment from the US to Japan.
The An-225 can carry in excess of 500,000lbs of cargo. By comparison, the largest 747 variant can carry just shy of 300,000lbs (with the never-actually-built A-380F able to carry 330,000lbs -- the same as an An-124, albeit with a larger volume).
I think it's safe to say that the world needs a second An-225.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629413Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:09:44 -0800schmodBy: charlie don't surf
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629415
<a href="http://telstarlogistics.typepad.com/telstarlogistics/2011/04/can-this-giant-cement-truck-end-japans-nuclear-crisis.html">Telstar Logistics</a> has a good story on this with loads of pics and a video.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629415Sun, 10 Apr 2011 13:12:03 -0800charlie don't surfBy: PROD_TPSL
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629615
That single <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonov_An-225">Antonov An-225</a> is a gem... and as the construction of the second airframe has ceased as of 2009... priceless.
"Mriya"
...indeed. A dream, for when our nightmares come true.
I wonder if the latest series of disasters will see further pressure to have the second airframe completed...
Who do we ask?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629615Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:00:06 -0800PROD_TPSLBy: zardoz
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629630
I just like saying "Putzmeister".comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629630Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:16:01 -0800zardozBy: Skeptic
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629651
Putzmeister has some renown among patent specialists thanks to its "Bastardring" (<a href="http://ipkitten.blogspot.com/2011/04/ip-for-immature-putzmeister-vs-schwing.html">seriously</a>).comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629651Sun, 10 Apr 2011 16:29:49 -0800SkepticBy: bink
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3629754
And their big competition: <a href="http://www.schwing.com/">Schwing</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3629754Sun, 10 Apr 2011 18:07:44 -0800binkBy: ovvl
http://www.metafilter.com/102387/Putzmeister-pumps-and-Fukushima-exclusionzone-road-trip#3633554
A smaller version of this liquid concrete-pumping truck appeared at our work site one day. As the job was finishing up, I was standing by, observing the operation, and I mentioned to the technician that I had always wondered exactly how they clean the concrete out of the tubes. He said to me: "Now you'll find out."
He took a generic foam nerf-ball out of his toolbox, shoved it into the end of the nozzle, went to the controls, cranked the pressure direction to 'reverse', and hit 'engage'.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.102387-3633554Tue, 12 Apr 2011 15:45:50 -0800ovvl
¡°Why?¡± asked Larry, in his practical way. "Sergeant," admonished the Lieutenant, "you mustn't use such language to your men." "Yes," accorded Shorty; "we'll git some rations from camp by this evenin'. Cap will look out for that. Meanwhile, I'll take out two or three o' the boys on a scout into the country, to see if we can't pick up something to eat." Marvor, however, didn't seem satisfied. "The masters always speak truth," he said. "Is this what you tell me?" MRS. B.: Why are they let, then? My song is short. I am near the dead. So Albert's letter remained unanswered¡ªCaro felt that Reuben was unjust. She had grown very critical of him lately, and a smarting dislike coloured her [Pg 337]judgments. After all, it was he who had driven everybody to whatever it was that had disgraced him. He was to blame for Robert's theft, for Albert's treachery, for Richard's base dependence on the Bardons, for George's death, for Benjamin's disappearance, for Tilly's marriage, for Rose's elopement¡ªit was a heavy load, but Caro put the whole of it on Reuben's shoulders, and added, moreover, the tragedy of her own warped life. He was a tyrant, who sucked his children's blood, and cursed them when they succeeded in breaking free. "Tell my lord," said Calverley, "I will attend him instantly." HoME²Ô¾®¿Õ·¬ºÅѸÀ×Á´½Ó
ENTER NUMBET 0017 www.nihe9.net.cn sina3.net.cn www.fente8.net.cn www.tuokeya.com.cn teamas.com.cn dzhi.com.cn maona6.com.cn www.srdjm.com.cn www.xiqula.com.cn 2jx.net.cn