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Comments on MetaFilter post Wow your friendsFri, 16 Aug 2002 13:14:06 -0800Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:14:06 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Wow your friends
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<a href="http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:HBopt1G379gC:people.brandeis.edu/~kleber/Papers/card.pdf+%22The+Best+Card+Trick%22&hl=en&ie=UTF-8">Wow your friends</a> <small><small>[google]</small></small> and learn a little <a title="The 5 card magic trick was put out many years ago, under the name Telephone Stud, by "Fitch" (Professor Fitch Cheney, Jnr, Chairman, Dept of Mathematics, University of Hartford, Hartford, CT)." href="http://www.math.ucdavis.edu/~anne/puzzles.html">history</a> behind the <a title="Mathmagicians." href="http://people.brandeis.edu/~kleber/Papers/card.pdf">best card trick.</a> <small><small>[pdf]</small></small>post:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:12:35 -0800psychotic_venomcardtrickpuzzlesmichaelkleberfitchcheneywallaceleemagicmathematicsbrokenlinkBy: psychotic_venom
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323676
Well, I guess you can't wow anyone that reads Mefi.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323676Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:14:06 -0800psychotic_venomBy: andrewzipp
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323681
card tricks suck.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323681Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:17:32 -0800andrewzippBy: zekinskia
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323690
I had a hunch those "lovely assistants" were smarter than they looked. Apparently they're math freaks...comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323690Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:23:15 -0800zekinskiaBy: starvingartist
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323697
My brother does magic - he has this great card trick where he makes four piles of four cards with an ace in each pile. Then he puts one of the piles under the foot of his hapless victim. He then proceeds to make the other three aces disappear from the other three piles, and they all end up under the victim's foot. I've seen it 4 or 5 times now and it still amazes me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323697Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:27:57 -0800starvingartistBy: dhartung
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323735
Well, there's an easy (and obvious) way to double the "signal" -- have the assistant pass any particular card face up or face down. But of course the point of this trick isn't the magic itself, it's the math.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323735Fri, 16 Aug 2002 13:59:34 -0800dhartungBy: crunchland
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323752
The "best" card trick wouldn't require a confederate.
I remember doing an amazing automatic card trick when I was a kid -- it worked every time, seemed like magic, and required no skill other than counting (as I recall).
Unfortunately I guess the details got lost after one too many bong hits a couple years later, and I can only remember the part about basking in the warm glow of the oohs and ahhs.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323752Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:16:14 -0800crunchlandBy: bradth27
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323768
<i>The Birkhoffvon Neumann theorem states that the convex hull of the permu-tation matrices is precisely the set of doubly stochastic matrices: matrices withentries in [0, 1] with each row and column summing to 1. We will use the equiva-lent discrete statement that any matrix of nonnegative integers with constant rowand column sums can be written as a sum of permutation matrices.6To prove thisby induction (on the constant sum) one need only show that any such matrix isentrywise greater than some permutation matrix. </i>
Oh Jesus, my head just caved in.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323768Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:32:56 -0800bradth27By: Succa
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323774
Anyone remember that trick where the final step is to slip a stack of four cards between the knuckles of the participant's closed fist, smack the stack of cards with your hand, and "The Card" is left behind, stuck between the participant's knuckles?
I was really good at that one.
This trick is pretty cool, but difficult. Requires memorization and quick recall by the assistant as well as the magician. But it is very clever indeed. Tricks that require assistants lose a bit of their lustre though, cause you can't just whip out a deck of cards by yourself and show off. Oh well, an interesting read.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323774Fri, 16 Aug 2002 14:41:59 -0800SuccaBy: DevilsAdvocate
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323787
<blockquote>"Do you like card tricks?"
"No, I hate card tricks," I answered.
"Well, I'll just show you this one."
He showed me three. </blockquote><i>-- Somerset Maugham, "Mr. Know-All"</i>comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323787Fri, 16 Aug 2002 15:05:49 -0800DevilsAdvocateBy: Scottk
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323810
My favorite card trick involves four completely non related words:
<center><b>Atlas, Bible, Thigh, Goose</b></center>Anyone else know this one?comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323810Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:00:11 -0800ScottkBy: Shadowkeeper
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323825
<i>I remember doing an amazing automatic card trick when I was a kid -- it worked every time, seemed like magic, and required no skill other than counting (as I recall) ... unfortunately I guess the details got lost after one too many bong hit</i>
Shot in the dark. If you have a deck of cards handy, play along at home.
<blockquote>Step One: Take a deck and randomly discard ten cards. (I prefer to do this before the trick starts and never tell the audience, but you can do it in the middle if you're feeling honest.) Now deal the cards into piles like so. Flip the top card from the deck face up, announce the value aloud ("seven!") and place it on the table as a foundation to a pile. Now continue to deal cards onto that pile, counting upwards with each card, until you hit thirteen. So after putting the Seven face up, you would deal five cards onto it, counting "Eight", "Nine," "Ten," "Jack," "Queen," "King!"). If the foundation card is an Ace you will create a 13-card pile; if it is a King it will constitute a pile unto itself. When a pile is complete, start a new pile with the next card. If the last cards in the deck do not make a complete pile (e.g., you flip over a "Three" but only have seven cards remaining, set the remainders aside for the moment.
Step Two: Flip all the piles face down. Ask your audience to pick three of them. Take all the unchosen piles and combine them with the cards you set aside in step one (*not* the ten you took out before you started -- those never re-enter the trick). Hand the deck to your audience.
Step Three: Tell your audience to flip over the card on top of one of the three face-down piles. After he has done so, tell him to discard that many cards. So if he flipped over a Nine, he would discard nine cards from his deck. Now have him flip over the top card on a second pile and repeat the process. If you did *not* remove ten cards prior to starting, now tell him to discard ten "for good measure".
Step Four: Ask your audience to count how many cards he has left in his deck. Then tell him to flip over the top card on the last of the three face-down piles. If you've done everything correctly, the value of the card will equal the number of cards he still holds.</blockquote>Sounds numbingly mathematic when described, I admit, but it's pretty neat in practice and hard to screw up.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323825Fri, 16 Aug 2002 16:25:33 -0800ShadowkeeperBy: jazon
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323866
Shadowkeeper - just tried it, then did it with the kids. Amazing trick. I'll have to keep that one in the back of my head to pull out and impress folks.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323866Fri, 16 Aug 2002 17:42:33 -0800jazonBy: crunchland
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#323906
That sounds close, but not quite.
There were piles of cards, all right, but the more I think about it, it involved telling a story while counting out the cards -- a story about the 4 jacks, travelling around the world or something. Each jack started out in different piles, and then all ending up in the same pile, and that was the trick. Or something.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-323906Fri, 16 Aug 2002 19:15:10 -0800crunchlandBy: kozad
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#324109
Shadowkeeper: step three left me with zero cards!? Am I doing something wrong? How much does a face card count for in step three?comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-324109Sat, 17 Aug 2002 07:29:20 -0800kozadBy: meep
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#324136
dammit, i just gave this trick to the kids at <a href="http://www.mathcamp.org">mathcamp</a> a week ago -- more specifically i told them to figure out how to do this trick and then demonstrate it in a timed contest. I think about 3 teams managed to do it.
There's another trick I want to try that is not guaranteed to work but is something that occurs with about 90% probability. I'll have to find a description of it somewhere.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-324136Sat, 17 Aug 2002 08:42:02 -0800meepBy: Shadowkeeper
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#324207
<i>Am I doing something wrong?</i>
Must be. At all times Jacks = 11, Queens = 12, Kings =13.comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-324207Sat, 17 Aug 2002 10:44:25 -0800ShadowkeeperBy: baylink
http://www.metafilter.com/19229/Wow-your-friends#324264
One question, Psycho:
Why the numeric link on the Google search? Any idea? I'll assume you didn't do that on purpose...comment:www.metafilter.com,2002:site.19229-324264Sat, 17 Aug 2002 12:40:28 -0800baylink
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