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<a href="http://www.mostemailed.com/images/misc/badNeighbour/">Grossest neighbor moves out.</a> "About a year ago we noticed a foul smell coming through the walls of our bedroom from the apartment next door..."post:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215Thu, 20 May 2004 15:00:43 -0800tsarfanneighboursdirtsqualorenvironmentalhealthBy: fenriq
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673672
Um yeah, that's a lovely pictorial of squalor. It would have been interesting to get a picture of the guy who lived there.
The place actually looks like some crack den or abandoned building squat pad.
Nasty and makes me realize that my own strained relations with our neighbors could be much, much worse.
Shame some of the pics are so dark though.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673672Thu, 20 May 2004 15:11:12 -0800fenriqBy: jon_kill
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673674
My brother had to clean up a place with a dog room once. Imagine how that felt.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673674Thu, 20 May 2004 15:14:50 -0800jon_killBy: interrobang
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673677
Reminds me of "The Fan Man".comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673677Thu, 20 May 2004 15:17:00 -0800interrobangBy: Lynsey
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673680
Ew. Ew, ew, ew, ew, ew, ew! Gasp! EW!comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673680Thu, 20 May 2004 15:17:40 -0800LynseyBy: keswick
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673683
Must have been a Grateful Dead fan.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673683Thu, 20 May 2004 15:18:09 -0800keswickBy: FormlessOne
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673684
I don't even want to think about what's living/growing/reproducing under that layer of filth in his bedroom.
I mean, damn.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673684Thu, 20 May 2004 15:18:36 -0800FormlessOneBy: SisterHavana
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673687
Ewww. And I thought my fridge was kind of gross when I moved out of my apartment. Mine was immaculate in comparison!comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673687Thu, 20 May 2004 15:24:02 -0800SisterHavanaBy: elwoodwiles
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673693
Aw, c'mon. A little paint, some curtains, maybe a little <b>CLEANSING FIRE</b>, and the place could be a regular love-nest.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673693Thu, 20 May 2004 15:28:36 -0800elwoodwilesBy: tonebarge
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673696
I wonder if he was a musician...comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673696Thu, 20 May 2004 15:40:18 -0800tonebargeBy: angry modem
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673702
or a member of greenpeace.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673702Thu, 20 May 2004 15:51:06 -0800angry modemBy: abcde
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673711
That's only about 1½ times worse than what <a href=http://nullmoo.ath.cx:8080/room/>my room</a> was like at its worst. (Those shots are actually from one of the best times, and the last two are "after" shots from when I cleaned it a few weeks later. It's even better now, the grotesquely stained rug replaced with laminate fake-wood)comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673711Thu, 20 May 2004 16:03:02 -0800abcdeBy: konolia
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673712
Reminds me of <a href="http://www.squalorsurvivors.com/">this post</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673712Thu, 20 May 2004 16:03:29 -0800konoliaBy: Orb
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673715
I am once again reminded that my housekeeping skills aren't nearly as bad as I think they are. I was just kicking myself mentally earlier that I'd spilled some soda in the fridge, but didn't have time to clean it up right away and then forgot about it. A few drops of soda on a glass shelf is NOTHING compared to the fridge in those photos. How the hell does one get their fridge to look that way?!?!comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673715Thu, 20 May 2004 16:06:49 -0800OrbBy: abcde
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673717
Before anybody makes wisecrakes, despite the fact that there is a vaseline intensive care bottle on top of the computer, I swear to God it's not for mastubation ;) not that I never do, but still.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673717Thu, 20 May 2004 16:09:21 -0800abcdeBy: arielmeadow
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673718
I live in an old house that's been remodled into a quadplex. The woman who lives on the third floor has been there since 1980, and if her van parked out front is any indication, her apartment may look something like the one pictured in this post. People are free to live how they want, but I worry about her apartment being a fire hazard to the rest of us.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673718Thu, 20 May 2004 16:10:28 -0800arielmeadowBy: smackfu
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673734
I'm going to print out that picture of the fridge and stick it up on my door. It makes mine look pristine.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673734Thu, 20 May 2004 16:22:24 -0800smackfuBy: dg
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673742
If this was a rental, are regular inspections by the landlord not an integral part of the renting world in (I assume) the US?comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673742Thu, 20 May 2004 16:32:26 -0800dgBy: mdn
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673743
a) do the neighbors know what pot smells like? Because the mud in the fridge & the bathroom make me wonder if he was growing something, and they talk about a "foul smell" emanating from the place. And pot's not called skunkweed for nothing.
b) I seriously doubt he lived in the bedroom underneath all the papers etc. That looks like "pack the stuff to keep, toss the stuff to throw away into the bedroom..." to me.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673743Thu, 20 May 2004 16:33:01 -0800mdnBy: Nelson
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673744
Everyone's making fun of this, but what about the poor man who lived there?comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673744Thu, 20 May 2004 16:33:19 -0800NelsonBy: gesamtkunstwerk
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673750
This post will haunt me like a repressed childhood trauma.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673750Thu, 20 May 2004 16:43:16 -0800gesamtkunstwerkBy: tomplus2
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673762
I saw a Jaguar that looked like that (on the inside) the other day. It was sad. It's a CAR, not a dumpster.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673762Thu, 20 May 2004 16:53:02 -0800tomplus2By: fenriq
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673763
Nelson, poor people can't clean up after themselves? Or just poor Deadheads can't clean up after themselves?
If he was an invalid then maybe but there's no mention of any handicap, just stink.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673763Thu, 20 May 2004 16:53:41 -0800fenriqBy: snarfodox
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673778
<i>abcde> Before anybody makes wisecrakes, despite the fact that there is a vaseline intensive care bottle on top of the computer, I swear to God it's not for mastubation ;) not that I never do, but still.</i>
Riiiiight. Sure. No really. We believe you.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673778Thu, 20 May 2004 17:09:48 -0800snarfodoxBy: Orb
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673782
<em>I'm going to print out that picture of the fridge and stick it up on my door. It makes mine look pristine.</em>
Excellent idea, smackfu. Then when my husband points out the three drops of soda a a bread crumb on one shelf (which he alreday has - clean freak that he is), I can show him what a REAL biohazard looks like. :Dcomment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673782Thu, 20 May 2004 17:17:19 -0800OrbBy: Nelson
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673789
<i>Nelson, poor people can't clean up after themselves?</i>
I meant poor as in sad, not poor as in impecunious. Something must be wrong with a person to live like that. Maybe crippling depression, or infirmity, or..comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673789Thu, 20 May 2004 17:24:24 -0800NelsonBy: Mo Nickels
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673791
Couldn't have been a Republican. Too many living things left intact.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673791Thu, 20 May 2004 17:26:15 -0800Mo NickelsBy: loquacious
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673794
That guy is an amateur. There's no visible insect larva, there's no dead animals inside the fridge or out, you can't see the wall studs anywhere and there's no visible graffiti.
If he was a pro there would be skateboard wheel marks on the ceiling, a bowling ball embedded in the last square yard of intact drywall and some sort of prosimian dwarf-hominid <em>thing</em> living in the salad crisper that just <em>evolved</em> there, demanding beer or Easy Cheeze or something.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673794Thu, 20 May 2004 17:29:24 -0800loquaciousBy: angry modem
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673805
My friend doesn't really clean up his bathroom. It's kind of gross, but hey, I've seen worse. Anyways, one day, I go to spit or something into his sink (don't remember), and greeting me from the drain from between trimmed beard hairs is a small green sprout of some sort.
Seems another friend was cleaning his pot and threw the seeds in the sink.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673805Thu, 20 May 2004 17:51:24 -0800angry modemBy: daHIFI
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673818
Reminds me of the house that my parents bought about 14 years ago when we first moved to Virginia. We picked up this <i>steal</i> of a house that had been abandoned for 6 to nine months. Turned out that the occupants had just left behind almost everything they owned, including about 8 cats and a fridge full of food. Since the power had been out for months, all of the food in the fridge had been rotting in it for months and the cats had been using the house as a huge bathroom. We had to rip out all the carpet in house, and the smell still lingered for months afterward. They left behind clothes, family photos, all kinds of things that made it look like they left in a real hurry.
Oh yah, to top it all off, the guy painted autos and had done up all of the aluminium siding with spray cans of primer. And they had buried an 4ft above ground pool halfway in the ground, and removed it before they left, leaving a 30 ft hole in the back yard.
It was just the fixer upper my parents were looking for in a small town where to raise me and my brother. My father has and still continues to put a lot of time and money into the house, although the siding finally came down this year.
I will never forget the mess that became our house.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673818Thu, 20 May 2004 18:29:56 -0800daHIFIBy: justgary
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673829
<em>It would have been interesting to get a picture of the guy who lived there.</em>
How in the world would that have been interesting? The apartment does make an impression, but I'm not sure how pointing and laughing at him can be considered anything but cruel.
<em>
Nelson, poor people can't clean up after themselves?</em>
Do you even know he was poor? Rich people can't be nasty? Besides, we know nothing about this man. He could have been old, alone, and had psychological problems. When it comes to senior citizens, many fall through the cracks. Many simply are not capable of living on their own but have no one to look after them.
This almost sounds like a <a href="http://eldercare.uniontrib.com/news/denise/hoarding.cfm">case of hoarding</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673829Thu, 20 May 2004 20:49:02 -0800justgaryBy: Space Coyote
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I'm sorry but that kind of dirt is the kid of thing you need to be proactive about. The guy had to be up to something.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673864Thu, 20 May 2004 23:16:55 -0800Space CoyoteBy: drezdn
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673865
<i>It's just a 3 inch wall away from our own bathroom.</i>
This is where I lose sympathy for the writer.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673865Thu, 20 May 2004 23:17:36 -0800drezdnBy: tracicle
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673870
I lost sympathy back at the beginning when they made no effort beyond knocking on the guy's door to find out what was going on with him. A landlord that gave a crap about his property would have had a locksmith in there to ensure he still had right of access to the place to keep tabs on it, and neighbours that are able to do anything but take photos to publish on the internet and go, "Ew, what <i>is</i> that!? Ew, gross, ew!" may have prevented this from happening.
If someone is capable of making a mess like that, it would seem to me that they're in need of some serious help.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673870Thu, 20 May 2004 23:51:11 -0800tracicleBy: Ethereal Bligh
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673873
I was raised in a neurotically clean house, but have myself always been a slob. But also kind of an extremist with OCD tendencies. So, anyway, my pattern my whole life has been to let things get so messy it's intolerable, and then do an anal-retentive top-to-bottom reorganize-and-clean flurry. This wasn't ideal, but it did work for me. And when I got stuff clean, I got it really clean. Though a slob, because of my childhood, I'm also paradoxically an "a place for everything and everything in its place" sort of person.
Anyway. So nowadays because of my bone disease, my arthritis is very bad and I'm not very ambulatory. The floor might as well be the ceiling for how accessible it is to me. And the problem is that I haven't learned to change my habits. I'm still a slob. Except now, I can't clean like I used to. I'll try, but after doing a little bit I'll hurt so bad and be so tired I'll have to stop. And then I can't get out of bed for a couple of days. I can't ask someone else to clean this mess, because it's such a mess, you know?
And I still haven't adjusted to this. My house and particularly my bedroom is an intolerable mess, and I hate it.
So, anyway, looking at those photos scares me, makes me hope I don't ever get that far gone. And, obviously, I worry about the man that lived there.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673873Thu, 20 May 2004 23:56:14 -0800Ethereal BlighBy: ed\26h
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abcde: I too got upset when I had <a href="http://26h.net/wires_everywhere.jpg">wires everywhere</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673882Fri, 21 May 2004 01:27:13 -0800ed\26hBy: ciderwoman
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673888
This is what your house looks like when you spend too much time on the internet.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673888Fri, 21 May 2004 03:12:31 -0800ciderwomanBy: chickygrrl
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673965
Judging by the floor plan that I can see, this looks like it's probably in an apartment complex - the kitchen in particular is <i>exactly</i> like the one that I had several years ago, right down to the model of the stove and the color of the fridge. Thankfully, my place was never even close to being that bad, even with 5 cats.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673965Fri, 21 May 2004 07:54:47 -0800chickygrrlBy: orange swan
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673986
It's funny how one's own standard of cleanliness is usually the litmus test for cleanliness in general. My guests often make comparisons between my place and their own places, and almost everyone in this thread has compared their own places to this man's.
<i>It's just a 3 inch wall away from our own bathroom.
This is where I lose sympathy for the writer.</i>
Why? Yes, it would have been great if this man had gotten some help, but there are some people who won't be helped - perhaps he was one. And these people are quite right to be concerned about the proximity of such filth to their own place.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673986Fri, 21 May 2004 08:30:43 -0800orange swanBy: drezdn
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#673997
<i>Why? </i>
The only two problems that the filth would cause for the neighbors would possibly be smell and maybe insects.
The comment strikes me as an "oooh get it off"- ie. an emotional reaction- rather than a reasoned response.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-673997Fri, 21 May 2004 08:43:48 -0800drezdnBy: kgasmart
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#674002
<em>The only two problems that the filth would cause for the neighbors would possibly be smell and maybe insects.</em>
Well, those are fairly significant problems, don't you think?
If the guy needed help them maybe someone should have made a significant attempt to help him. But frankly, why should anyone have to put up with this sort of thing? You pay your rent money, doesn't that entitle you to an apartment that doesn't smell nauseating because of what a neighbor might be up to? And isn't it the landlord's responsibility to rectify the situation?
Me, I'm in the guy's situation, I'm on the horn with the landlord daily to complain, and if the landlord doesn't solve the problem, I'm out of there - and good luck renting the apartment.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-674002Fri, 21 May 2004 08:56:26 -0800kgasmartBy: fenriq
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#674076
justgary, my response was a response to Nelson posting about sympathy for the poor guy. I took it as a sleight against poor people and wrote back.
And no, my interest in seeing what he looked like was how he cared for himself. I've know people that live in squalor yet you wouldn't know it by meeting them on the street. Curiousity not cruelty but thanks for checking.comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-674076Fri, 21 May 2004 11:12:18 -0800fenriqBy: thomcatspike
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#674230
<em>abcde: I too got upset when I had wires everywhere.</em>
sheesh thought both of you would post a real mess, that's just clutter which makes you look unorganized:)comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-674230Fri, 21 May 2004 14:26:51 -0800thomcatspikeBy: Pigpen
http://www.metafilter.com/33215/grossest-apartment-dweller-moves-out#674480
Tracicle, if you read the <a href="http://www.mostemailed.com/images/misc/badNeighbour/faq.html">FAQ</a> you'll see that a) they were not his landlords and b) they kept pestering the landlords and management about him and suggesting social services until they found out he was moving to a care unit at a local VA hospital (although whether this was a result of their pestering is not clear to me.)comment:www.metafilter.com,2004:site.33215-674480Sat, 22 May 2004 13:39:27 -0800Pigpen
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