Comments on: Veterans' Health Care http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care/ Comments on MetaFilter post Veterans' Health Care Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:34:15 -0800 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:34:15 -0800 en-us http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss 60 Veterans' Health Care http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/17/AR2007021701172.html">Soldiers Face Neglect, Frustration At Army's Top Medical Facility.</a> The Iraq war has transformed Walter Reed into "a holding ground for physically and psychologically damaged outpatients." Meanwhile, despite predictions that <a href=http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/02/06/1531201>the cost of medical care for veterans will skyrocket</a>, the Bush administration apparently plans to <a href=http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070212/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush_budget_veterans>cut funding for veterans' health care</a>. Tired of waiting for the government, more people are taking the initiative in developing <a href=http://www.veteransvillage.org/>alternative facilities</a> to help veterans. post:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:23:24 -0800 homunculus Casualties Health HealthCare Iraq PTSD Troops Veterans War Wounded Meditation By: Heywood Mogroot http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594387 This was is going to cost the US more than Vietnam. Thanks, Ralph. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594387 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:34:15 -0800 Heywood Mogroot By: srboisvert http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594394 Veterans are not troops. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594394 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:41:49 -0800 srboisvert By: grapefruitmoon http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594396 I swear I've seen a similar article on MeFi before, but a search yields nothing. (Certainly this is no double, but it would have been neat to see what the previous discussion yielded.) Crap. Anyhow, the state of health care in general in the US is abominable at best. This is a flat out atrocity. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594396 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:45:45 -0800 grapefruitmoon By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594410 Related to the last link: <a href=http://www.lacitybeat.com/article.php?id=4238&IssueNum=168>Iraq War veterans are using Buddhist practices to make peace with themselves and the horrors of the battlefield</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594410 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 12:58:05 -0800 homunculus By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594429 <a href=http://inteldump.powerblogs.com/posts/1171759108.shtml>This is the tip of the iceberg.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594429 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:24:17 -0800 homunculus By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594464 <small><i>... a major reason outpatients stay so long, a change from the days when injured soldiers were discharged as quickly as possible, is that the Army wants to be able to hang on to as many soldiers as it can, "because this is the first time this country has fought a war for so long with an all-volunteer force since the Revolution."</i></small> <a href="http://echidneofthesnakes.blogspot.com/2007_02_01_archive.html#1274275684146608692">Did you interpret this the same way I did: </a>That these soldiers with no limbs or severe mental problems are held in storage so that they can be sent back to Iraq or Iran or wherever the government decides to attack next? I hope I got that wrong.</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594464 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:23:40 -0800 amberglow By: scody http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594465 I would like to see Bill Kristol ask those soldiers why they just can't <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/01/21/kristol-iraq-quiet/">be quiet for six to nine more months</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594465 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:23:56 -0800 scody By: Astro Zombie http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594473 Support the Troops! In no significant way whatsoever! comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594473 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:35:35 -0800 Astro Zombie By: caddis http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594493 The liberal media does a poor job of taking Bush to task on such stuff. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594493 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:56:01 -0800 caddis By: ryoshu http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594514 <em>The liberal media does a poor job of taking Bush to task on such stuff.</em> Calling for accountability would be shrill. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594514 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:16:30 -0800 ryoshu By: Rancid Badger http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594532 All troops become veterans unless they die on active duty. This war has seen advanced medical care enabling life for those who would have died on the battlefields in the past. These vets are now alive but crippled. Blast injuries from IEDs not only shred limbs but cause a greater increase in head and Burn injuries. Traumatic limb amputation, burn, &amp; head injuries all require long term medical attention. The post speaks of problems at Walter Reed which treats active duty personnel. After your service gives you a medical discharges you become a veteran, wards of the Veterans Administration; lower down of the food chain, The VA has been chronically short funded for decades. For me this has not been an academic fact but personal as I am a patient, and have been a patient since the early 70's. At that time there were a lot of vets from WW2 who represented a significant voting block. As the veterans from WW2 died, this was coupled with a failure in Vietnam. This lost war was born on the backs of those "crazy" vets. Cutting funding at the VA became an easy out for legislators trying to balance a budget. With Iraqi, cutting the budget will become even easier; as a smaller voting block will stand in opposition. Speaking with the head primary care nurse of my local "VA Medical Center" a nurse who I have known for years, I asked if he had seen the Iraqi vets coming in. He said very few and then added that it took about 10 years for the Vietnam vets to show up. What a 20 year old wants is autonomy. It is a huge struggle for a young adult to say that he needs help; especially soldiers who have been drilled for years to not question authority and to make do with what they have. Here are 2 personal examples that I have experienced in the last year. I forgot to pick up my pain meds on a Friday. I called Saturday to ask if there was a way to pick up enough meds to last until Monday. "No they never prescribed any pain meds on weekends or during nighttime hours, period" they said. When asked what I was supposed to do I was told to go the local hospital ER. We both knew that as a new patient at the local ER I was never going to get any medication. Next I asked the nurse at the VA if I could be admitted as a patient. The answer was emphatic no. At my wits end I drove about 150 miles round trip to a fully staffed VA ER in another state. Who pulled up my records and said no problem here are your meds. I got to drive home with a tolerable amount of pain but worried about a DWI. The other incident was a request to revise scar tissue. I was sent to 2 very large VA hospitals (2-3 hours away). At both I was told that there was a waiting list so long that they were only were doing surgery for skin cancers and that outside that I would never be treated. There are some really caring hard working people at the VA but you have to be around the system to know who they are. The idea of hiring a crippled vet flies in the face of logic. Who wants to be reminded about how precarious life is by working with a legless scared 20 tear old vet. To be 20 years old and have 50 years left as a cripple is beyond most peoples imagination. Vets will always be the pariah. Our country is led by a Vice President who when asked about his lack of military service answered with "I had other priorities in the '60s than military service." Presidential AWOL Bush had little interest in fulfilling his obligation, with his superiors preferring to look the other way. Even Teddy Kennedy fulfilled his commitment. The most prominent republican spokesperson is Chuck Hagel who won two Purple Hearts and a Bronze Star all in Vietnam. He speaks knowingly of war in his oppositions. Why are Bush's daughters not in service? Maybe patriotism is merely lip service; the only emotional investments from those whose sacrifices are the heavy taxes on large war profits. Well we have to take care of our own; taxes have to be minimized so they can function more efficiently so we can win the war. What a bitter reminder of lies and failed glory when we are confronted with a wheel chair bound blind vet. Maybe it best to give them substandard care or better yet to be "put down" like a dysfunctional dog in an animal shelter. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594532 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:41:37 -0800 Rancid Badger By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594533 <em>The liberal media does a poor job of taking Bush to task on such stuff. Calling for accountability would be shrill.</em> Frontline is broadcasting a four-part series <a href="http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/newswar/">News War</a> on this topic:<blockquote>"'The battle between the White House and the national media is the battle over who controls the national agenda,' says commentator Patrick Buchanan. Mark McKinnon, former media adviser to President George W. Bush, agrees: 'The Washington press corps for years thought that unless you talked to The New York Times and CBS, that you weren't talking to the American public. Well, that's just not the case anymore.' McKinnon feels that it is a White House prerogative to choose its own communications strategy: 'Presidents ... ought to determine who they want to talk to and when they want to talk to them,' he says. But William Safire, author and former New York Times political columnist, fears that hostilities between the administration and the press could threaten the media's ability to hold government accountable. 'The great check and balance that was built into the Constitution is under challenge,' he says. 'You've got to have a relationship between the government and the press that's adversarial, but not an enemy.'"</blockquote> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594533 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 15:46:05 -0800 ericb By: kirkaracha http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594564 You probably thought "Support the Troops" had something to do with supporting the troops. It doesn't...It means <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/44181/Bread-and-Circuses-911-Style#1009128">"Fuck the Troops."</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594564 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:10:42 -0800 kirkaracha By: nekton http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594586 There's an excellent article in this month's Discover Magazine about how the armed forces deal with the injuries, especially Traumatic Brain Injury. According to the article, the initial medical care that soldiers receive (while still in Iraq, for example) is intended to save them no matter what (i.e. no advance directives). The medics are so good at what they do that the end result is a large number of soldiers surviving that would otherwise have died. Unfortunately I can't link the article (I subscribe and apparently the issue isn't out on newsstands yet.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594586 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 16:27:06 -0800 nekton By: pax digita http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594649 <em>Soldiers dealing with psychological disorders of their own have been put in charge of others at risk of suicide.</em> Not to gainsay the rest of the article, but this may not be a bad thing in and of itself -- one "inmates running the asylum" sitch a friend of mine experienced as a (civilian) psych inpatient was actually pretty beneficial because it gave the inpatients something in common to focus on -- something reality-based where they could make a positive difference on their fellow patients. The sense of purpose and community had an undeniable salutary effect, she said. Patients coming from milieux that emphasized unit cohesion could find this an invaluable antidote to the boredom of being warehoused without any real input or actitivity. People who are having problems of their own need to have those problems addressed, but it's helpful to give them something real and immediate to pay attention to that can give them the chance to make a positive difference -- just as the best thing you can do with a grieving person is to force him/her to keep his/her hands busy while coping with the grieving process. So this may give overworked, underresourced VA staff an opportunity to tap into the virtue of unit cohesion to help psychologically injured staff recuperate a bit by giving them some (hopefully limited) responsibility and oversight for their fellow patients. <small>(OTOH, as I type this, Ohio News Network is reporting that the Ohio National Guard has equipment shortages, due in part to forced neglect and attrition in extended deployments you-know-where -- so sorry if I got all positive and stuff for a minute there.)</small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594649 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 17:44:28 -0800 pax digita By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594665 <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594586">nekton</a>, would that be <a href="http://sev.prnewswire.com/magazines/20070212/AQM01412022007-1.html">Dead Men Walking</a>? comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594665 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:05:16 -0800 taosbat By: 2sheets http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594669 Hey, I put the magnetic ribbon on my SUV and threw away my Dixie Chicks CD. That's just not enough for some people, I guess. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594669 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 18:05:52 -0800 2sheets By: SaintCynr http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594712 What else can we expect from a coward "president" who shirked his own reserve duty, yet adores throwing other people's children into whatever bloody farrago he can scare Americans into taking seriously? In the end, I think we'll find that this fake war was begun solely for the purpose of profiteering and silencing opposition, paid for with our citizens' lives and the sweat of our brows. Go to the Hell you believe in, President Failure. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594712 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 19:33:40 -0800 SaintCynr By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594736 <a href=http://www.mahablog.com/2007/02/18/irreconcilable-differences/>Irreconcilable Differences</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594736 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:03:11 -0800 homunculus By: Logboy http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594776 As a recently wounded National Guardsman, amputee, and current patient of Walter Reed, I can tell you honestly that the stories are unfortunately true. I hate living at Walter Reed as an out-patient. Ive been living away from home now for over a year and a half. I just want to go home and learn to live life with one four-fingered arm. If you want my two cents go to www.jrsalzman.com/weblog/. Knowing that you're standing in a long line of people waiting to get screwed is pretty disconcerting. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594776 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:16:16 -0800 Logboy By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594804 Logboy, have they told you anything about when you can be discharged? Are you undergoing therapy still? (and i'm glad you're alive, and apologize for your injuries--we never should have sent any of you) Do they want to send you back? <a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/military-amputee-uninvited-from-bush.html">Military amputee uninvited from Bush event because the press would see him with no legs </a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594804 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 21:49:10 -0800 amberglow By: three blind mice http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594829 <i>Please remember this when you think about freedom. This isn't a dream, this isn't some fictional story about patriotism, this isn't some story I'm writing to be a hero. This is my life here at Walter Reed. I am the true cost of freedom. Welcome to my life. </i> All of you people are fucking heros. Hang in there and keep on writing Logboy. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594829 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:41:45 -0800 three blind mice By: dirtynumbangelboy http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594848 Logboy: I'm not even American. But thank you. I know how horrifically inadequate those words are for what you have undergone, and what you will deal with for the rest of your life. Nevertheless, thank you. Thank you for having the bravery that so many of us do not. I don't know what else to say. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594848 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:13:50 -0800 dirtynumbangelboy By: Goofyy http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594852 I'm dumbfounded, at myself. In all the shit that's hit the fan since the fucked election of 2000, I've felt fortunate I was living abroad. Now this gets in my face. For all the times I've felt bad for being in no position to aid the political effort at cleaning up this mess, I was never took seriously any desire to return to the States. Now? I wish I was back in Silversprings, MD (where I last lived, state-side), so I could go volunteer to work for these guys. So, where's the D.A.V. in all this? Checking <a href="http://www.dav.org/">their site</a> I don't see them saying much. I have no idea how politicized they are, however. Just happend to think of them first in this context. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594852 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:20:49 -0800 Goofyy By: Goofyy http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594854 scratch that 'was' up there. I never took myself seriously, I meant. FYI: D.A.V. = Disabled American Veterans. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594854 Sun, 18 Feb 2007 23:24:22 -0800 Goofyy By: pwedza http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1594880 Rancid: you should think about paragraphs next time. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1594880 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 00:16:13 -0800 pwedza By: Enron Hubbard http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595005 If the Democrats that regained power recently <em><strong>really </strong></em>wanted to show they've actually got backbones, they should tax the corporations that have made windfall millions off this war to give veterans medical care. It would go a long way toward restoring faith in government that has dwindled in the last six years. And it never will happen. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595005 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:50:13 -0800 Enron Hubbard By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595291 <a href=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEpRlw9pMrw>Stopping War for Profit: Greenwald on Olbermann</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595291 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:51:14 -0800 homunculus By: JJ86 http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595292 After the civil war many veterans hospitals were built entirely from women's fundraising efforts and private donations. The government was not prepared to care for the wounded and maimed veterans at all. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595292 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 09:53:25 -0800 JJ86 By: madamjujujive http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595348 We need to do right by our vets - this is a crime: <a href="http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2007/02/11/told_to_wait_a_marine_dies/">Told to wait, a Marine dies</a>. <strong>Logboy</strong>, it does my heart good to see you posting here again! Many of us have been concerned about you and following <a href="http://www.jrsalzman.com/weblog/">your blog</a> looking for word on how you are faring. I am so sorry to hear that your care falls short of what it should be, short of what we owe you for what you have done for your country. I will be emailing my congresspeople and including your recent blog post, too. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595348 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:22:27 -0800 madamjujujive By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595405 Let us know what we can do, Logboy, besides yelling at our congresspeople. (My offer to help out anyone to get them discharged under DADT still stands for anyone who needs it, by the way) comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595405 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:21:04 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595408 Do you need pjs/clothes/books/etc or anything like that? Do the other soldiers? Post your address. All of us have stuff we could send to make things a little more bearable. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595408 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:22:13 -0800 amberglow By: kirkaracha http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595586 <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/18/AR2007021801335.html">The Hotel Aftermath</a> is the second part of the <cite>Washington Post</cite> series. <a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/02/tnsmedboards070217/">Wounded and waiting</a>, from the <cite>Army Times</cite>. "A slow medical evaluation process leaves many injured troops in limbo." comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595586 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:27:10 -0800 kirkaracha By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595614 (I've had CNN on all afternoon, and haven't seen one single thing about any of this at all--pathetic. Hours on missing climbers tho.) comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595614 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:47:28 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595647 <small><i><a href="http://www.sptimes.com/2007/02/18/News/White_House_delivers_.shtml">...Here is a substantive example of the reality of who supports the troops and who does not.</a> The Washington Post reported last week that the Army, which has suffered the largest number of fatalities, began the Iraq war in 2003 with an estimated $56-billion shortage of equipment - including advanced Humvees equipped with armor kits designed to reduce troop deaths from roadside bombs. Well, guess what? Nearly four years later, the Army, the Marine Corps and the National Guard still do not have an adequate number of Humvees equipped with the needed FRAG Kit 5 armor manufactured with more flexible materials that slow projectiles and contain debris, thus causing fewer deaths. Is this support of our troops? Pentagon brass and the president have known about these shortages from the beginning. And, while saber rattling, they have known all along that serious shortages of the new armor have been responsible, directly and indirectly, for hundreds of U.S. deaths. Is this support of our troops? It is not. ...</i></small> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595647 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 15:12:56 -0800 amberglow By: madamjujujive http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595735 Chris Matthews is talking about this story on Hardball tonight - he has Dana Priest on. I would be surprised if Olbermann doesn't discuss it too, and perhaps Imus tomorrow morning. This is one of those stories the blogs should mobilize behind too. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595735 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:19:08 -0800 madamjujujive By: Mental Wimp http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595751 One of my former students is working at a QUERI center for traumatic head injuries at the local VA medical center. Apparently, they're discovering that a lot of the survivors (who wouldn't have survived in previous actions due to the lack of body armor) have closed-head trauma that leads to subtle neurological deficits as well as PTSD-like symptoms. The systems are being overwhelmed and at the same time there is zero continuity of care between the battlefield, the DOD hospitals and clinics, and the VA facilities. This includes a lack of compatibility between the electronic medical records. I sure wish someone was in charge of something besides making more money for defense contractors and beating the American chest. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595751 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 16:40:16 -0800 Mental Wimp By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595813 <em>Chris Matthews is talking about this story on Hardball tonight - he has Dana Priest on.</em> Here's the <a href="http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=1bab627d-c269-458c-8ead-9a75d9f3eda6&f=00&fg=copy">video interview</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595813 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 17:40:53 -0800 ericb By: andywolf http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1595961 the company i work for has the va contract for ambulance transport and everyone absolutely hates dealing with them. every time i go to the place i expect to deal with laziness and incompetence and they never let me down. the emergency room always tells us to take patients to another hospital, they just don't want to do anything. i was in the er one day and overheard a nurse tell an incoming crew they didn't have any beds, so they had to divert to the next closest place. i was picking up the lone patient and looked around at about fifteen empty beds. complete lazy bullshit. i've got too many stories to share, of my own and others i hear in gossip/bitch sessions with co-workers. just one example though, real quick. i was picking up a wwII vet and specifically asked if they needed oxygen. nurse said nope, he's been on room air the whole time. driving along i'm doing my cya extensive recheck of the guy and lo and behold he's getting blue around the mouth and extremities. his o2 sat was around 65%!!!! that's fucking typical of the place, they're fucking dangerous. someone less thorough then me, or if he didn't have an attentive family waiting, he would be dead. i'm getting all pissed off just thinking about the place. and it fucking gets me that i'm the one that "doesn't support our troops" cause i don't beat the war drum. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1595961 Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:02:13 -0800 andywolf By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1596281 <a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/senior-walter-reed-official-under.html">Senior Walter Reed official is under investigation because of Wash Post investigation</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1596281 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:23:11 -0800 ericb By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1596451 <a href="http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/military/jan-june07/walterreed_02-19.html">PBS Newshour</a> on the situation at Walter Reed. Video available <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/20/dana-priest-walter-reed/">here</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1596451 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 10:53:44 -0800 ericb By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1597202 Americablog is all over this: <a href="http://americablog.blogspot.com/2007/02/pentagon-intentionally-hiding-12-of.html"> Pentagon intentionally hiding 1/2 of Iraq injured and wounded -- no wonder the health care budget for those troops isn't enough </a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1597202 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 21:57:03 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1597206 <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/02/20/bush-walter-reed/">Apparently, Bush is fine with U.S. troops living in squalid conditions — as long as no one else knows about it.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1597206 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:06:32 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1597215 Crooks and Liars found out that <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/20/more-on-walter-reed/">they need calling cards and backpacks.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1597215 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 22:13:50 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1598189 <a href="http://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/02/tnspatientcare070221/">Air Force Times: </a><i>The Army's vice chief of staff today said a "breakdown in leadership" is responsible for the widespread administrative problems faced by some wounded war veterans at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington. Meanwhile, the military's top civilian health official said that while he was "surprised" to learn of the problems, he and other leaders are aggressively seeking solutions. ...</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1598189 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:52:26 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1599364 <a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/print?id=2896907">Hey sir, you know, I was living in Iraq and now I'm living here. Life is good.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1599364 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 17:23:56 -0800 taosbat By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1601901 <a href=http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/02/25/wanker-pinkerton/>Damned liberal media!</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1601901 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:50:44 -0800 homunculus By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1601905 <a href=http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/02/22/60minutes/main2505412.shtml>GIs Petition Congress To End Iraq War: More Than 1,000 Military Personnel Sign Petition Urging Withdrawal</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1601905 Sun, 25 Feb 2007 12:52:52 -0800 homunculus By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1605373 <i>Soldiers at Walter Reed Army Medical Center's Medical Hold Unit say they have been told they will wake up at 6 a.m. every morning and have their rooms ready for inspection at 7 a.m., and that they must not speak to the media. <a href="http://www.armytimes.com/news/2007/02/TNSreedinspect070227/"> "Some soldiers believe this is a form of punishment for the trouble soldiers caused by talking to the media," </a>one Medical Hold Unit soldier said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. ...</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1605373 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 10:15:27 -0800 amberglow By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1605914 <a href=http://www.mediainfo.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003551716>Military Press Crackdown Extends Further Than Walter Reed</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1605914 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 18:51:10 -0800 homunculus By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1605994 A procession of Pentagon and Walter Reed officials expressed surprise last week about the living conditions and bureaucratic nightmares faced by wounded soldiers staying at the D.C. medical facility. But <a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/02/28/AR2007022801954.html">as far back as 2003, the commander of Walter Reed, Lt. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley, who is now the Army's top medical officer, was told that soldiers who were wounded in Iraq and Afghanistan were languishing and lost on the grounds</a>, according to interviews. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1605994 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 20:49:19 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606022 that's unbelievable, taos (i say that, knowing it's expected when it's the GOP and this Administration--incompetence, coverup, and lies first and foremost always) comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606022 Wed, 28 Feb 2007 21:46:35 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606377 Unfortunately, amberglow, I think anyone who ever served in our military would find the notion of a 3-star CYA REMF playing off the soldiers in his care and blowing off his job entirely believable. Lt. Gen. Kevin C. Kiley clearly doesn't give a rat's ass. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606377 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:14:24 -0800 taosbat By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606520 <a href="http://www.politicalcortex.com/story/2007/2/26/144649/828">The news just keeps on coming.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606520 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 09:50:59 -0800 homunculus By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606720 <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070301/pl_nm/usa_army_hospital_dc">Army hospital chief [Maj. Gen. George Weightman] removed from post</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606720 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:16:40 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606737 <i>In today's Washington Post, Rep. Bill Young (R-FL) admits that <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/01/young-walterreed/">he has known of the neglect and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed for years,</a> but didn't do anything because when he approached hospital officials, they made him "feel very uncomfortable." Young's excuse is pathetic. From 1999-2005, he served as chairman of the Appropriations Committee, which controls all federal discretionary spending. Young could have easily subpoenaed the Army and conducted a thorough public investigation. ...</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606737 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:28:22 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606757 ...<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-01-walter-reed_x.htm?csp=34">Weightman's duties at Walter Reed will be assumed temporarily by Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley, the commander of U.S. Medical Command, until a permanent replacement is found, Harvey said</a>... comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606757 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 12:49:38 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606826 Kiley, who knew for years, replaces Weightman, who knew for years??? Typical. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1606826 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 13:52:41 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1607078 Yup, <em>typical</em>. &amp;... I have $8- copays on my VA R<sub>x</sub>'s courtesy of BushCo (probably will go up in the next month or so). The nearest VA support center is a little over 70 miles away in Santa Fe. The hospital is in Albuquerque. My local clinic is about 20 minutes from home down the river road. I get my office visits free. It's a long distance call to talk to them, 'though, because it's in the next county. The Santa Fe folks arraigned with the local mental health center for me to get grief counseling here in Taos when my son died because they agreed that 70<em>ish</em> miles was too far for either them or me to drive routinely. Last week, the mental health center informed me that I had used up my free crisis visits so I started a $5- copay. That's cheaper than driving to Santa Fe; but, the VA told me the counseling was going to be free. And that's not even my VA benefit. It's extended to certain family members because Robert died while on active duty. They never even told my ex about it. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1607078 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:56:47 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1607084 &amp; I don't get dental nor eye. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1607084 Thu, 01 Mar 2007 18:07:41 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1607707 <a href="http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070302/ap_on_go_pr_wh/walter_reed">White</a><a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/kiley-demoralizing/">wash</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1607707 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 09:36:32 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608110 <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/imus-lieberman/">Lieberman</a> v. <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/slaughter-kiley/">Slaughter</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608110 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:14:00 -0800 taosbat By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608117 <a href="http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17423439/">Secretary of the Army Francis J. Harvey has resigned</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608117 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:18:15 -0800 ericb By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608121 Next up ... a Pulitzer Prize for Dana Priest. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608121 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 13:19:26 -0800 ericb By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608418 Now they're saying "Defense Secretary Robert Gates <a href="http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N02394835.htm">fired</a> Army Secretary Francis Harvey on Friday..." I wonder whose skeleton LTG Kiley knows about. <em>Next up ... <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dana_Priest">another</a> Pulitzer Prize for Dana Priest.</em> I just knew you'd want that fixed. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608418 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:09:04 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608445 <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/02/breaking-did-privatization-at-walter-reed-put-troops-at-risk/">Did Privatization at Walter Reed Put Troops at Risk?</a>--<i>... the Army's decision to privatize support services at Walter Reed Army Medical Center was causing an exodus of 'highly skilled and experienced personnel,'" the committee's letter states. "According to multiple sources, the decision to privatize support services at Walter Reed led to a precipitous drop in support personnel at Walter Reed." The letter said Walter Reed also awarded a five-year, $120-million contract to IAP Worldwide Services, which is run by Al Neffgen, a former senior Halliburton official....</i> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608445 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 16:37:02 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1608652 <a href="http://www.thedenverchannel.com/print/11157726/detail.html">Senior defense officials speaking on condition of anonymity told The Associated Press that Gates had asked Harvey to leave. He was displeased that Harvey, after firing Maj. Gen. George Weightman as the head of Army Medical Center, chose to name as Weightman's temporary replacement another general whose role in the controversy was still in question... Army officials said that Maj. Gen. Eric R. Schoomaker will be the new commander of Walter Reed Army Medical Center and North Atlantic Regional Medical Command. Schoomaker currently is the commanding general of the U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command at Fort Detrick, Md...</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1608652 Fri, 02 Mar 2007 21:07:41 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1610606 On Election Day, <a href="http://www.defenselink.mil/Contracts/Contract.aspx?ContractID=3378">IAB was awarded another 25 mil one-bid contract for Walter Reed, lasting til 2011.</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1610606 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 05:37:15 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611354 <a href="http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070305/i/r3098267129.jpg?x=380&y=261&sig=xCWxEoZMoKYOl8bzWsbozA--">SSG John Daniel Shannon, Annette McCloud, SPC Jeremy Duncan</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611354 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 19:03:22 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611475 <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/05/walter-reed-hearing-lives-shattered-in-service-to-their-country/">Walter Reed Hearing: "Lives shattered in service to their country."</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611475 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:50:11 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611478 more on McLeod: <a href="http://www.correntewire.com/republican_wouldnt_treat_their_dogs_this_poorly_walter_reed_hearings">...a Walter Reed staff member tried to reclassify her husband as mentally retarded to prevent him from receiving necessary, but costly medical care. ...</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611478 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 20:54:05 -0800 amberglow By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611572 <a href="http://xnerg.blogspot.com/2007/03/this-administration-has-been-supporting.html"> A look from 2003 til now at how the GOP and Administration have been neglecting and cutting help for our troops</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611572 Mon, 05 Mar 2007 23:21:43 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611846 <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/05/kiley-junior/">Kiley Blames 'Junior Level' Leadership For Walter Reed Scandal</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611846 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 07:51:24 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1611886 "<a href="http://abcnews.go.com/US/print?id=2925617">I am a wounded soldier's wife, and we have been dealing with these injuries for almost three years now</a>," Heather Pepper wrote in an e-mail. "I can't say that it gets better, because for us it hasn't yet. My husband hasn't had any kind of treatment since he was retired on Dec. 31, 2005." ... "It's gonna be out in the open for maybe six or eight months, then it's gonna go back to the way it was," he says. "Once it's not in the public's eye anymore, it goes away." comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1611886 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 08:28:09 -0800 taosbat By: homunculus http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1612645 <a href="http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/03/06/the-daily-show-slams-bush-over-walter-reed-scandal/">The Daily Show Slams Bush Over Walter Reed Scandal</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1612645 Tue, 06 Mar 2007 20:11:10 -0800 homunculus By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1613141 <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/07/opinion/07weds2.html?_r=2&oref=slogin&oref=slogin">"Fundamental Responsibility" for Walter Reed Lies with Bush and Rumsfeld</a><blockquote>"There is plenty of blame to go around. Officials at Walter Reed were egregiously negligent. The Army's high command, and the Joint Chiefs above them, were too weak-kneed or obtuse to demand adequate resources for medical care — just as they were too fearful for their own careers to demand adequate troops to fight the Iraq war to begin with. But the fundamental responsibility rests with the president and his former defense secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, who stubbornly insisted on going to war without sufficient resources — and then sought to hide the costs of their disastrous mistakes from the American public. Is it any surprise that the war's wounded have been hidden away in the shadows of moldy buildings by an administration that refused to let photographers take pictures of returning coffins? Or a White House that keeps claiming that victory in this failed and ever more costly war is always just a few more months away? The Walter Reed revelations once again put the lie to the president's claim that everything is being done to support America's troops. Just as the administration has been shockingly slow to provide the necessary body armor for troops in Iraq and notably complacent about rotating exhausted troops back into the war, so, too, has it been reluctant to confront the large casualty toll from Iraq and Afghanistan. Military doctors have been amazingly proficient about saving lives that would have been lost in earlier wars. But as we now know, the injured survivors too often fall through the cracks."</blockquote> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1613141 Wed, 07 Mar 2007 08:36:20 -0800 ericb By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1614478 <a href="http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/08/clinton.military.ap/index.html">Clinton calls for new GI 'Bill of Rights'</a> "This administration is frankly unable to run a two-car parade..." comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1614478 Thu, 08 Mar 2007 12:04:51 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1614879 <a href="http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/politics/4614496.html">House panel told of warnings about VA</a> A former Veterans Affairs official said Thursday he warned the department as early as August 2005 of backlogs in the VA health care system but officials instead shelved a program aimed at alleviating delays. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1614879 Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:24:25 -0800 taosbat By: ericb http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1615591 <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/gingrey-walter-reed/">Rep. Gingrey Blames Soldiers For Walter Reed Squalor: 'If You Leave Food Around You'll Get Mice'</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1615591 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 11:54:22 -0800 ericb By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1615619 I looked at ericb's link and then was poking around Think Progress and I looked at this article, <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/veterans-receive-unequal-treatment-from-va/">Veterans receive unequal treatment from VA</a>, and the <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/veterans-receive-unequal-treatment-from-va/#comment-2128253">fourth comment</a> is a suicide note signed rachel kinnardi. I sent the comment link to <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/contact">Think Progress</a>. I don't know what else to do. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1615619 Fri, 09 Mar 2007 12:30:19 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1616707 <a href="http://www.pjstar.com/stories/031007/TRI_BCJGN077.064.php">east PEORIA</a> - The anguish Kathy Bachman felt nearly three years ago when her son was being treated at Walter Reed Army Medical Center is just as fresh now as it was then... comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1616707 Sat, 10 Mar 2007 13:01:31 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1617231 The Army and Marine Corps, bearing the brunt of the burden in Iraq and Afghanistan, tend to give their wounded troops lower disability ratings than the Navy and Air Force, according to Defense Department data. The result: Soldiers and Marines receive an average of several hundred dollars per month less in disability retired pay than sailors and airmen. Break those numbers down a different way and the system shows another inequity: All services tend to grant officers disability ratings of 50% or higher at a significantly greater rate than enlisted members. Critics say those figures support their contention that the Army, in particular, purposely tries to hold down costs by giving low ratings to enlisted soldiers who far outnumber officers going through the lengthy, convoluted system<a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-10-disability-pay_N.htm?csp=34">...</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1617231 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 08:46:11 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1617362 Defence Secretary Des Browne has responded to claims of neglect towards British troops wounded in conflict by promising the best possible treatment<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6439625.stm">...</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1617362 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 12:34:57 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1617397 Today on CBS's Face the Nation, Sen. Claire McCaskill (D-MO) called on the Bush administration to remove Lt. Gen. Kevin Kiley from his post as Army surgeon general, and to fire Veterans Affairs Secretary Jim Nicholson, whose appointment "looks like a Brownie situation." "This is a political appointment," McCaskill said of Nicholson. "This is somebody who has spent a whole lot of the last few years defending everything about the White House." CBS host Bob Schieffer piled on, saying "in at least two television appearances that I have seen him...he seemed unfamiliar with the services that were being offered by his own agency." <a href="http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/11/mccaskill-nicholson-brownie/">Watch it:</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1617397 Sun, 11 Mar 2007 13:43:32 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1618115 <a href="http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2007-03-12-walter-reed_N.htm">Former Walter Reed chief Gen. Kiley retires</a> comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1618115 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 10:09:49 -0800 taosbat By: amberglow http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1618586 <i> Former Walter Reed chief Gen. Kiley retires</i> finally! Now we need all the GOP Congresspeople who knew about this and did nothing to be indicted or forced to resign too. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1618586 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:01:55 -0800 amberglow By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1618781 Would that it should play out so, <a href="http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1606737" title="In today's Washington Post, Rep. Bill Young (R-FL) admits that he has known of the neglect and deplorable conditions at Walter Reed for years, but didn't do anything because when he approached hospital officials, they made him "feel very uncomfortable." Young's excuse is pathetic. From 1999-2005, he served as chairman of the Appropriations Committee, which controls all federal discretionary spending. Young could have easily subpoenaed the Army and conducted a thorough public investigation. ... posted by amberglow">amberglow</a>. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1618781 Mon, 12 Mar 2007 17:24:13 -0800 taosbat By: taosbat http://www.metafilter.com/58744/Veterans-Health-Care#1621182 "<a href="http://washingtonbureau.typepad.com/veterans/">Wounded Warriors</a>" is a collection of veterans coverage from the McClatchy Washington Bureau, McClatchy Newspapers, and other sources. comment:www.metafilter.com,2007:site.58744-1621182 Wed, 14 Mar 2007 14:04:34 -0800 taosbat ¡°Why?¡± asked Larry, in his practical way. "Sergeant," admonished the Lieutenant, "you mustn't use such language to your men." "Yes," accorded Shorty; "we'll git some rations from camp by this evenin'. Cap will look out for that. Meanwhile, I'll take out two or three o' the boys on a scout into the country, to see if we can't pick up something to eat." Marvor, however, didn't seem satisfied. "The masters always speak truth," he said. "Is this what you tell me?" MRS. B.: Why are they let, then? My song is short. I am near the dead. So Albert's letter remained unanswered¡ªCaro felt that Reuben was unjust. She had grown very critical of him lately, and a smarting dislike coloured her [Pg 337]judgments. After all, it was he who had driven everybody to whatever it was that had disgraced him. He was to blame for Robert's theft, for Albert's treachery, for Richard's base dependence on the Bardons, for George's death, for Benjamin's disappearance, for Tilly's marriage, for Rose's elopement¡ªit was a heavy load, but Caro put the whole of it on Reuben's shoulders, and added, moreover, the tragedy of her own warped life. He was a tyrant, who sucked his children's blood, and cursed them when they succeeded in breaking free. "Tell my lord," said Calverley, "I will attend him instantly." HoME²Ô¾®¿Õ·¬ºÅѸÀ×Á´½Ó ENTER NUMBET 0017
xdfhq.com.cn
www.gelao5.com.cn
lusi7.com.cn
woben1.com.cn
xs520.com.cn
wanmi9.com.cn
www.sheni5.net.cn
yanyi1.net.cn
www.ymtang.com.cn
lezhi7.net.cn
成人图片四月色月阁 美女小美操逼 综合图区亚洲 苍井空的蓝色天空 草比wang WWW.BBB471.COM WWW.76UUU.COM WWW.2BQVOD.COM WWW.BASHAN.COM WWW.7WENTA.COM WWW.EHU8.COM WWW.XFW333.COM WWW.XF234.COM WWW.XIXILU9.COM WWW.0755MSX.NET WWW.DGFACAI.COM WWW.44DDYY.COM WWW.1122DX.COM WWW.YKB168.COM WWW.FDJWG.COM WWW.83CCCC.COM WWW.7MTP.COM WWW.NXL7.COM WWW.UZPLN.COM WWW.SEA0362.NET WWW.LUYHA.COM WWW.IXIAWAN.COM WWW.HNJXSJ.COM WWW.53PY.COM WWW.HAOYMAO.COM WWW.97PPP.COM 医网性交动态图 龙腾视频网 骚姐av男人天堂444ckcom wwwvv854 popovodcom sss色手机观看 淫荡之妇 - 百度 亚洲人兽交欧美A片 色妹妹wwwsemm22com 人妻激情p 狼国48Q 亚洲成人理论网 欧美男女av影片 家庭乱伦无需任何播放器在线播放 妩媚的尼姑 老妇成人图片大全 舔姐姐的穴 纯洁小处男 pu285ftp 大哥撸鲁鲁修 咪米色网站 丝袜美腿18P 晚上碰上的足交视频 avav9898 狠狠插影院免费观看所视频有电影 熟女良家p 50s人体 幼女av电影资源种子 小说家庭乱伦校园春色 丝袜美女做爱图片 影音先锋强奸影片 裸贷视频在线观 校园春色卡通动漫的 搜索wwwhuangtvcom 色妹影视 戊人网站 大阴茎男人性恋色网 偷拍自怕台湾妹 AV视频插进去 大胆老奶奶妈妈 GoGo全球高清美女人体 曼娜回忆录全文 上海东亚 舔柯蓝的脚 3344d最近十天更新 av在线日韩有码 强奸乱伦性爱淫秽 淫女谁 2233p 123aaaa查询 福利AV网站 世界黄色网址 弟姐撸人人操 婷婷淫色色淫 淫姐姐手机影院 一个释放的蝌蚪窝超碰 成人速播视频 爱爱王国 黄色一级片影视 夫妻主奴五月天 先锋撸撸吧 Xxoo88 与奶奶的激情 我和老女人美妙经历 淫妻色五月 zaiqqc 和姐姐互舔15p 色黄mp4 先锋2018资源 seoquentetved2k 嫩妹妹色妹妹干妹妹 欧美性爱3751www69nnnncom 淫男乱女小说 东方在线Av成人撸一撸 亚洲成人av伦理 四虎影视二级 3p性交 外国人妖口交性交黑人J吧插女人笔视观看 黑道总裁 人人x艹 美女大战大黑吊 神马电影伦理武则天 大鸡八插进的戏 爆操情人 热颜射国产 真实自拍足交 偷拍萝莉洗澡无码视频 哥哥狠狠射狠狠爱 欲体焚情搜狗 妹子啪啪网站 jizzroutn 平井绘里在线观看 肏男女 五月天逍遥社区 网站 私色房综合网成人网 男人和女人caobi 成人共享网站 港台三级片有逼吗 淫龙之王小说 惠美里大战黑人 我为美女姐姐口交 乱论色站 西田麻衣大胆的人体艺术 亚洲 包射网另类酷文在线 就爱白白胖胖大屁股在线播放 欧美淫妻色色色 奥蕾人艺术全套图片 台湾中学生门ed2k 2013国产幼门 WWW_66GGG_COM WWW_899VV_COM 中国老女人草比 qingse9 nvtongtongwaiyintou 哥哥妹妹性爱av电影 欧美和亚洲裸体做爱 肏胖骚屄 美国十此次先锋做爱影视 亚里沙siro 爆操人妻少妇 性交的骚妇 百度音影动漫美女窝骚 WWW_10XXOO_COM 哥两撸裸体图片 香洪武侠电影 胖美奈 我和女儿日屄 上海礼仪小姐 紫微斗数全书 优酷视频联盟 工作压力大怎么办 成人动漫edk 67ijcom WWW15NVNVCOM 东京热逼图 狠狠干自拍 第五色宗 少妇的b毛 t56人体艺术大胆人体模特 大黄狗与美女快播播放 美女露屄禁图 大胆内射少妇 十二种屄 苍井空绿色大战 WWWAFA789COM 淫老婆3p 橹二哥影院影视先锋 日本h动漫继母在线观看 淫乱村庄 强奸少妇采花魔 小泽玛莉亚乱伦电影 婷婷五月红成人网 我爱色洞洞 和老婆日屄图片 哪个网站能看到李宗瑞全集 操小姨的穴 白洁亚洲图片 亚洲色图淫荡内射美女 国外孕妇radio 哪本小说里有个金瓶经的拉完屎扣扣屁眼闻俩下 在线亚洲邪恶图 快播最新波哆野结依 wwwgigi22com 操紧身妹 丁香五月哥 欧美强奸幼童下载wwwgzyunhecom 撸波波rrr777 淫兽传 水淫穴 哥哥干巨乳波霸中文字幕 母子相奸AV视频录像 淫荡的制服丝袜妈妈 有强奸内容的小黄文 哪里艺术片 刘嘉玲人体艺术大胆写真 www婷婷五月天5252bocom 美女护士动态图片 教师制服诱惑a 黄色激情校园小说 怡红院叶子喋 棚户区嫖妓pronhub 肏逼微博 wwppcc777 vns56666com 色哥哥色妹妹内射 ww99anan 清纯秀气的学生妹喝醉 短头发撸碰 苍井空一级片tupian 够爽影院女生 鲁大娘久草 av淘之类的网站 谷露AV日本AV韩国AV 电台有声小说 丽苑春色 小泽玛利亚英语 bl动漫h网 色谷歌短片 免费成人电影 台湾女星综合网 美眉骚导航(荐) 岛国爱情动作片种子 兔牙喵喵在线观看影院 五月婷婷开心之深深爱一本道 动漫福利啪啪 500导航 自拍 综合 dvdes664影音先锋在线观看 水岛津实透明丝袜 rrav999 绝色福利导航视频 200bbb 同学聚会被轮奸在线视频 性感漂亮的保健品推销员上门推销套套和延迟剂时被客户要求当场实验效果操的 羞羞影院每日黄片 小黄视频免费观看在线播放 日本涩青视频 日本写真视频 日本女人大尺度裸体操逼视频 日韩电影网 日本正在播放女教师 在线观看国产自拍 四虎官方影库 男男a片 小武妈妈 人妻免费 视频日本 日本毛片免费视频观看51影院 波多野结衣av医院百度网盘 秋假影院美国影阮日本 1亚欧成人小视频 奇怪美发沙龙店2莉莉影院 av无码毛片 丝袜女王调教的网站有哪些 2499在线观视频免费观看 约炮少妇视频 上床A级片 美尻 无料 w字 主播小电影视频在线观看 自拍性porn 伦理片日本猜人电影 初犬 无码 特级毛片影谍 日日在线操小妹视频 日本无码乱论视频 kinpatu86 在线 欧美色图狠狠插 唐朝AV国产 校花女神肛门自慰视频 免费城人网站 日产午夜影院 97人人操在线视频 俺来也还有什么类似的 caopron网页 HND181 西瓜影音 阿v天堂网2014 秋霞eusses极速播放 柳州莫菁第6集 磁力链 下载丝袜中文字 IPZ-694 ftp 海牙视频成人 韩国出轨漫画无码 rbd561在线观看 色色色 magnet 冲田杏梨爆乳女教师在线 大桃桃(原蜜桃Q妹)最新高清大秀两套6V XXX日本人体艺术三人 城市雄鹰。你个淫娃 久久最新国产动漫在线 A级高清免费一本道 人妻色图 欧美激情艳舞视频 草莓在线看视频自拍 成电人影有亚洲 ribrngaoqingshipin 天天啪c○m 浣肠video在线观看 天堂av无码av欧美av免费看电影 ftxx00 大香蕉水 吉里吉里电影网 日本三级有码视频 房事小视频。 午午西西影院 国内自拍主播 冲田爱佳 经典拳交视频最新在线视频 怡红影晥免费普通用户 青娱乐综合在线观看 藏经阁成人 汤姆影视avtom wwWff153CoM 一本道小视频免费 神马影影院大黄蜂 欧美老人大屁股在线 四级xf 坏木啪 冲田杏梨和黑人bt下载 干莉莉 桃乃木香奈在线高清ck 桑拿888珠海 家庭乱伦视频。 小鸟酱自慰视频在线观看 校园春色 中文字幕 性迷宫0808 迅雷资源来几个 小明看看永久免费视频2 先锋hunta资源 国产偷拍天天干 wwwsezyz4qiangjianluanlun 婷婷五月社区综合 爸爸你的鸡巴太大轻点我好痛 农村妇女买淫视屏 西瓜网赤井美月爆乳女子在校生 97无码R级 日本图书馆暴力强奸在线免费 巨乳爱爱在线播放 ouzouxinjiao 黄色国产视频 成人 自拍 超碰 在线 腿绞论坛 92福利电影300集 人妻x人妻动漫在线 进入 91视频 会计科目汇总表人妻x人妻动漫在线 激情上位的高颜值小少妇 苹果手机能看的A片 一本道av淘宝在线 佐藤美纪 在线全集 深夜成人 国内自拍佛爷在线 国内真实换妻现场实拍自拍 金瓶梅漫画第九话无码 99操人人操 3737电影网手机在线载 91另类视频 微兔云 (指甲油) -(零食) ssni180迅雷中字 超清高碰视频免费观看 成人啪啪小视频网址 美女婶婶当家教在线观看 网红花臂纹身美女大花猫SM微拍视频 帅哥美女搞基在床上搞的视频下载东西 日本视频淫乱 av小视频av小电影 藤原辽子在线 川上优被强奸电影播放 长时间啊嗯哦视频 美女主播凌晨情趣套装开车,各种自·慰加舞技 佳色影院 acg乡村 国产系列欧美系列 本土成人线上免费影片 波罗野结衣四虎精品在线 爆乳幼稚园 国产自拍美女在线观看免插件 黑丝女优电影 色色的动漫视频 男女抽插激情视频 Lu69 无毛伦理 粉嫩少妇9P 欧美女人开苞视频 女同a级片 无码播放 偷拍自拍平板 天天干人人人人干 肏多毛的老女人 夜人人人视频 动漫女仆被揉胸视频 WWW2018AVCOM jizzjizzjizz马苏 巨乳潜入搜查官 藤浦惠在线观看 老鸹免费黄片 美女被操屄视频 美国两性 西瓜影音 毛片ok48 美国毛片基地A级e片 色狼窝图片网 泷泽乃南高清无码片 热热色源20在线观看 加勒比澳门网 经典伦理片abc 激情视频。app 三百元的性交动画 97爱蜜姚网 雷颖菲qq空间 激情床戏拍拍拍 luoli hmanh 男人叉女人视频直播软件 看美女搞基哪个app好 本网站受美坚利合众国 caobike在线视频发布站 女主播电击直肠两小时 狠狠干高清视频在线观看 女学生被强奸的视频软件 欧美喷水番号 欧美自拍视频 武侠古典伦理 m13113美女图片 日本波多野结衣三级无马 美女大桥AV隐退 在线中文字幕亚洲欧美飞机图 xxx,av720p iav国产自拍视频 国内偷拍视频在线 - 百度 国歌产成人网 韩国美女主播录制0821 韩国直播av性 fyeec日本 骚逼播放 偷拍你懂的网站 牡蛎写真视频 初川南个人资源 韩国夏娃 ftp 五十度飞2828 成人区 第五季 视频区 亚洲日韩 中文字幕 动漫 7m视频分类大全电影 动漫黄片10000部免费视频 我骚逼丝袜女网友给上了 日本女人的性生活和下水道囧图黄 肏婶骚屄 欧美美女性爰图 和美女明星做爱舒服吗 乱伦小说小姨 天天舅妈 日本极品淫妇美鲍人体艺术 黄色录像强奸片 逍遥仙境论坛最新地址 人插母动物 黄s页大全 亚洲无码电影网址 幼女乱伦电影 雯雅婷30p caopran在线视频 插b尽兴口交 张佰芝yinbu biantaicaobitupian 台湾18成人电影 勾引同学做爱 动态性交姿势图 日本性交图10p 操逼动态图大全 国产后入90后 quanjialuanlun 裸女条河图片种子 坚挺的鸡吧塞进少妇的骚穴 迅雷亚洲bt www56com 徐老板去农村玩幼女小说故事 大尺度床吻戏大全视频 wwwtp2008com 黑丝大奶av 口述与爸爸做爱 人兽完全插入 欧美大乳12p 77hp 教师 欧美免费黄色网 影音先锋干女人逼 田中瞳无码电影 男人与漂亮的小母 在线观看 朴妮唛骚逼 欧美性感骚屄浪女 a片马干人 藤原绘里香电影 草草逼网址 www46xxxcn 美女草屄图 色老太人体艺网 男人的大阴茎插屄 北京违章车辆查询 魅影小说 滨岛真绪zhongzi 口比一级片 国产a片电影在线播放 小说我给男友刮毛 做爱视屏 茜木铃 开心四色播播网影视先锋 影音先锋欧美性爱人与兽 激情撸色天天草 插小嫚逼电影 人与动物三客优 日本阴部漫画美女邪恶图裸体护士美女露阴部 露屄大图 日韩炮图图片 欧美色图天天爱打炮 咪咕网一路向西国语 一级激情片 我爱看片av怎么打不开 偷拍自拍影先锋芳芳影院 性感黑丝高跟操逼 女性阴部摄影图片 自拍偷拍作爱群交 我把大姨给操了 好色a片 大鸡吧黄片 操逼和屁眼哪个爽 先生肉感授业八木梓 国产电影色图 色吧色吧图片 祖母乱伦片 强悍的老公搞了老婆又搞女儿影音先锋 美女战黑人大鸟五月 我被大鸡吧狂草骚穴 黄狗猪性交妇 我爱少女的逼 伦理苍井空百度影音 三姨妈的肥 国产成人电影有哪些 偷拍自拍劲爆欧美 公司机WWW日本黄色 无遮挡AV片 sRAV美女 WLJEEE163com 大鸡巴操骚12p 我穿着黑丝和哥哥干 jiujiucaojiujiucao 澳门赌场性交黄色免费视频 sifangplanxyz 欧美人兽交asianwwwzooasiancomwwwzootube8com 地狱少女新图 美女和黄鳝xxx doingit电影图片 香港性爱电影盟 av电影瑜伽 撸尔山乱伦AV 天天天天操极品好身材 黑人美女xxoo电影 极品太太 制服诱惑秘书贴吧 阿庆淫传公众号 国产迟丽丽合集 bbw热舞 下流番号 奥门红久久AV jhw04com 香港嫩穴 qingjunlu3最新网 激情做爱动画直播 老师大骚逼 成人激情a片干充气娃娃的视频 咪图屋推女郎 AV黄色电影天堂 aiai666top 空姐丝袜大乱11p 公公大鸡巴太大了视频 亚洲午夜Av电影 兰桂坊女主播 百度酷色酷 龙珠h绿帽 女同磨豆腐偷拍 超碰男人游戏 人妻武侠第1页 中国妹妹一级黄片 电影女同性恋嘴舔 色秀直播间 肏屄女人的叫声录音 干她成人2oP 五月婷婷狼 那里可以看国内女星裸照 狼友最爱操逼图片 野蛮部落的性生活 人体艺术摄影37cc 欧美色片大色站社区 欧美性爱喷 亚洲无码av欧美天堂网男人天堂 黑人黄色网站 小明看看主 人体艺术taosejiu 1024核工厂xp露出激情 WWWDDFULICOM 粉嫩白虎自慰 色色帝国PK视频 美国搔女 视频搜索在线国产 小明算你狠色 七夜郎在线观看 亚洲色图欧美色图自拍偷拍视频一区视频二区 pyp影yuan 我操网 tk天堂网 亚洲欧美射图片65zzzzcom 猪jb 另类AV南瓜下载 外国的人妖网站 腐女幼幼 影音先锋紧博资源 快撸网87 妈妈5我乱论 亚洲色~ 普通话在线超碰视频下载 世界大逼免费视频 先锋女优图片 搜索黄色男的操女人 久久女优播免费的 女明星被P成女优 成人三级图 肉欲儿媳妇 午夜大片厂 光棍电影手机观看小姨子 偷拍自拍乘人小说 丝袜3av网 Qvodp 国产女学生做爱电影 第四色haoav 催眠赵奕欢小说 色猫电影 另类性爱群交 影像先锋 美女自慰云点播 小姨子日B乱伦 伊人成人在线视频区 干表姐的大白屁股 禁室义母 a片丝袜那有a片看a片东京热a片q钬 香港经典av在线电影 嫩紧疼 亚洲av度 91骚资源视频免费观看 夜夜日夜夜拍hhh600com 欧美沙滩人体艺术图片wwwymrtnet 我给公公按摩 吉沢明涉av电影 恋夜秀晨间电影 1122ct 淫妻交换长篇连载 同事夫妇淫乱大浑战小说 kk原创yumi www774n 小伙干美国大乳美女magnet 狗鸡巴插骚穴小说 七草千岁改名微博 满18周岁可看爱爱色 呱呱下载 人妻诱惑乱伦电影 痴汉图书馆5小说 meinvsextv www444kkggcom AV天堂手机迅雷下载 干大姨子和二姨子 丝袜夫人 qingse 肥佬影音 经典乱伦性爱故事 日日毛资源站首页 美国美女裸体快播 午夜性交狂 meiguomeishaonvrentiyishu 妹妹被哥哥干出水 东莞扫黄女子图片 带毛裸照 zipailaobishipin 人体艺术阴部裸体 秘密 强奸酒醉大奶熟女无码全集在线播放 操岳母的大屄 国产少妇的阴毛 影音先锋肥熟老夫妻 女人潮吹视频 骚老师小琪迎新舞会 大奶女友 杨幂不雅视频种子百度贴吧 53kk 俄罗斯骚穴 国模 露逼图 李宗瑞78女友名单 二级片区视频观看 爸爸妈妈的淫荡性爱 成人电影去也 华我想操逼 色站图片看不了 嫖娼色 肛交lp 强奸乱伦肏屄 肥穴h图 岳母 奶子 妈妈是av女星 淫荡性感大波荡妇图片 欧美激情bt专区论坛 晚清四大奇案 日啖荔枝三百颗作者 三国防沉迷 印度新娘大结局 米琪人体艺术 夜夜射婷婷色在线视频 www555focom 台北聚色网 搞穴影音先锋 美吻影院超体 女人小穴很很日 老荡妇高跟丝袜足交 越南大胆室内人体艺术 翔田千里美图 樱由罗种子 美女自摸视频下载 香港美女模特被摸内逼 朴麦妮高清 亚寂寞美女用手指抠逼草莓 波多野结衣无码步兵在线 66女阴人体图片 吉吉影音最新无码专区 丝袜家庭教师种子 黄色网站名jane 52av路com 爱爱谷色导航网 阳具冰棒 3334kco 最大胆的人体摄影网 哥哥去在线乱伦文学 婶婶在果园里把我了 wagasetu 我去操妹 点色小说激 色和哥哥 吴清雅艳照 白丝护士ed2k 乱伦小说综合资源网 soso插插 性交抽插图 90后艳照门图片 高跟鞋97色 美女美鲍人体大胆色图 熟女性交bt 百度美女裸体艺术作品 铃木杏里高潮照片图 洋人曹比图 成人黄色图片电影网 幼幼女性性交 性感护士15p 白色天使电影 下载 带性视频qq 操熟女老师 亚洲人妻岛国线播放 虐待荡妇老婆 中国妈妈d视频 操操操成人图片 大阴户快操我 三级黄图片欣赏 jiusetengmuziluanlun p2002午夜福 肉丝一本道黑丝3p性爱 美丽叔母强奸乱伦 偷拍强奸轮奸美女短裙 日本女人啪啪网址 岛国调教magnet 大奶美女手机图片 变态强奸视频撸 美女与色男15p 巴西三级片大全 苍井空点影 草kkk 激情裸男体 东方AV在线岛国的搬运工下载 青青草日韩有码强奸视频 霞理沙无码AV磁力 哥哥射综合视频网 五月美女色色先锋 468rccm www色红尘com av母子相奸 成人黄色艳遇 亚洲爱爱动漫 干曰本av妇女 大奶美女家教激情性交 操丝袜嫩b 有声神话小说 小泽玛利亚迅雷 波多野结衣thunder 黄网色中色 www访问www www小沈阳网com 开心五月\u0027 五月天 酒色网 秘密花园 淫妹影院 黄黄黄电影 救国p2p 骚女窝影片 处女淫水乱流 少女迷奸视频 性感日本少妇 男人的极品通道 色系军团 恋爱操作团 撸撸看电影 柳州莫菁在线视频u 澳门娱银河成人影视 人人莫人人操 西瓜视频AV 欧美av自拍 偷拍 三级 狼人宝鸟视频下载 妹子漏阴道不打码视频 国产自拍在线不用 女牛学生破处視频 9877h漫 七色沙耶香番号 最新国产自拍 福利视频在线播放 青青草永久在线视频2 日本性虐电影百度云 pppd 481 snis939在线播放 疯狂性爱小视频精彩合集推荐 各种爆操 各种场所 各式美女 各种姿势 各式浪叫 各种美乳 谭晓彤脱黑奶罩视频 青青草伊人 国内外成人免费影视 日本18岁黄片 sese820 无码中文字幕在线播放2 - 百度 成语在线av 奇怪美发沙龙店2莉莉影院 1人妻在线a免费视频 259luxu在线播放 大香蕉综合伊人网在线影院 国模 在线视频 国产 同事 校园 在线 浪荡女同做爱 healthonline899 成人伦理 mp4 白合野 国产 迅雷 2018每日在线女优AV视频 佳AV国产AV自拍日韩AV视频 色系里番播放器 有没有在线看萝莉处女小视频的网站 高清免费视频任你搞伦理片 温泉伦理按摸无码 PRTD-003 时间停止美容院 计女影院 操大白逼baby操作粉红 ak影院手机版 91老司机sm 毛片基地成人体验区 dv1456 亚洲无限看片区图片 abp582 ed2k 57rrrr新域名 XX局长饭局上吃饱喝足叫来小情人当众人面骑坐身上啪啪 欲脱衣摸乳给众人看 超震撼 处女在线免费黄色视频 大香巨乳家政爱爱在线 吹潮野战 处女任务坉片 偷拍视频老夫妻爱爱 yibendaoshipinzhaixian 小川阿佐美再战 内人妻淫技 magnet 高老庄八戒影院 xxxooo日韩 日韩av12不卡超碰 逼的淫液 视频 黎明之前 ftp 成人电影片偷拍自拍 久久热自拍偷在线啪啪无码 2017狼人干一家人人 国产女主播理论在线 日本老黄视频网站 少妇偷拍点播在线 污色屋在线视频播放 狂插不射 08新神偷古惑仔刷钱BUG 俄罗斯强姦 在线播放 1901福利性爱 女人59岁阴部视频 国产小视频福利在线每天更新 教育网人体艺术 大屁股女神叫声可射技术太棒了 在线 极品口暴深喉先锋 操空姐比 坏木啪 手机电影分分钟操 jjzyjj11跳转页 d8视频永久视频精品在线 757午夜视频第28集 杉浦花音免费在线观看 学生自拍 香蕉视频看点app下载黄色片 2安徽庐江教师4P照片 快播人妻小说 国产福二代少妇做爱在线视频 不穿衣服的模特58 特黄韩国一级视频 四虎视频操逼小段 干日本妇妇高清 chineseloverhomemade304 av搜搜福利 apaa-186 magnet 885459com63影院 久久免费视怡红院看 波多野结衣妻ネトリ电影 草比视频福利视频 国人怡红院 超碰免费chaopeng 日本av播放器 48qa,c 超黄色裸体男女床上视频 PPPD-642 骑马乳交插乳抽插 JULIA 最后是厉害的 saob8 成人 inurl:xxx 阴扩 成八动漫AV在线 shawty siri自拍在线 成片免费观看大香蕉 草莓100社区视频 成人福利软件有哪些 直播啪啪啪视频在线 成人高清在线偷拍自拍视频网站 母女午夜快播 巨乳嫩穴影音先锋在线播放 IPZ-692 迅雷 哺乳期天天草夜夜夜啪啪啪视频在线 孩子放假前与熟女的最后一炮 操美女25p freex性日韩免费视频 rbd888磁力链接 欧美美人磁力 VR视频 亚洲无码 自拍偷拍 rdt在线伦理 日本伦理片 希崎杰西卡 被迫服从我的佐佐凌波在线观看 葵つか步兵在线 东方色图, 69堂在线视频 人人 abp356百度云 江媚玲三级大全 开心色导 大色哥网站 韩国短发电影磁力 美女在线福利伦理 亚洲 欧美 自拍在线 限制级福利视频第九影院 美女插鸡免得视频 泷泽萝拉第四部第三部我的邻居在线 色狼窝综合 美国少妇与水电工 火影忍者邪恶agc漫画纲手邪恶道 近亲乱伦视频 金卡戴珊视频门百度云 极虎彯院 日本 母乳 hd 视频 爆米花神马影院伦理片 国产偷拍自拍丝袜制服无码性交 璩美凤光碟完整版高清 teen萝莉 国产小电影kan1122 日日韩无码中文亚洲在线视频六区第6 黄瓜自卫视频激情 红番阔午夜影院 黄色激情视频网视频下载 捆梆绳模羽洁视频 香蕉视频页码 土豆成人影视 东方aⅴ免费观看p 国内主播夫妻啪啪自拍 国内网红主播自拍福利 孩子强奸美女软件 廿夜秀场面业影院 演员的诞生 ftp 迷奸系列番号 守望人妻魂 日本男同调教播放 porn三级 magnet 午夜丁香婷婷 裸卿女主播直播视频在线 ac制服 mp4 WWW_OSION4YOU_COM 90后人体艺术网 狠狠碰影音先锋 美女秘书加班被干 WWW_BBB4444_COM vv49情人网 WWW_XXX234_COM 黄色xxoo动态图 人与动物性交乱伦视频 屄彩图