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Ah, Fashion. <a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/">The shows.</a> <br /><br /><a href="http://www.cfda.com/">The designers.</a><br>
<a href="http://www.style.com/beauty/beautycounter/category/beauty-insider/">The styling.</a><br>
<a href="http://community.livejournal.com/foto_decadent">The photography.</a><br>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/models/">The models.</a><br>
<a href="http://www.wwd.com/">The news</a> (including <a href="http://www.wwd.com/fashion-news/spring-it-on-the-top-10-pantone-colors-for-womens-rtw-spring-2010-2260077?module=most_emailed">the colors</a>).<br>
<a href="http://thesartorialist.blogspot.com/">The street.</a>post:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:03:45 -0800kathrinegfashionmodelsdesignerscolorsartorialiststylemakeuphairBy: oinopaponton
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741708
I know there's more important stuff going on in the world, but my sole reason for visiting the New York Times lately has been <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/style/fashionweek/runway.html">this baby</a>. Thanks for the links.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741708Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:11:58 -0800oinopapontonBy: Blazecock Pileon
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741715
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cracker_(food)">The food.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741715Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:14:54 -0800Blazecock PileonBy: cmgonzalez
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741725
<a href="http://d.yimg.com/a/p/ap/20090914/capt.df896d59a8d249679f24853a445ab589.fashion_thom_browne_spring_2010_nyll120.jpg">The weird crap nobody would ever wear off the runway.</a>
Is that inspired by Dumb Donald?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741725Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:19:08 -0800cmgonzalezBy: Scoo
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741735
Vacuous self indulgent twaddle.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741735Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:23:03 -0800ScooBy: ThePinkSuperhero
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741737
Through some mix of fate and outrageous self-promotion, I managed to finagle an invitation to a show this season- the one night this week I actually had something to do I couldn't put off. Bah! That's what I get for not looking at my calendar. Next season I'm IN, I swear, if I have to scale the tents and rappel in.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741737Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:23:43 -0800ThePinkSuperheroBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741739
<em>Vacuous self indulgent twaddle.</em>
Yes, what about it?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741739Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:24:04 -0800kathrinegBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741741
What show?!?!?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741741Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:24:20 -0800kathrinegBy: Scoo
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741743
Bah!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741743Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:25:00 -0800ScooBy: adipocere
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741746
Fresh air!
Times Square!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741746Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:25:23 -0800adipocereBy: Optimus Chyme
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741749
<em>The weird crap nobody would ever wear off the runway.
posted by cmgonzalez at 11:19 AM on September 15</em>
*is Karl Lagerfeld*
*smokes enormous blunt *
*has amazing idea for 60's era Batman-villain prêt-à-porter line*comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741749Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:26:41 -0800Optimus ChymeBy: Go Banana
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741760
Ah, fashion...how I love you! What other endeavour is able to be so totally transfixing yet so unapologetically vacuous and ephemeral all at once? Thanks for the great post.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741760Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:33:31 -0800Go BananaBy: librarylis
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741771
You did a FPP on NY Fashion Week and didn't include a <a href="http://nymag.com/daily/fashion/">link to the Fug Girls doing their thing</a>?
They're the only reason I know it's Fashion Week, and they make reading about it bearable, even funny!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741771Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:36:50 -0800librarylisBy: infinitefloatingbrains
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741794
Here's a <a href="http://www.PDNPulse.com/2009/09/fashion-photog-rips-into-magazine-for-cutting-her-story.html">much more realistic take</a> on fashion photography. The comments section contains some great inside baseball.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741794Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:44:00 -0800infinitefloatingbrainsBy: Burhanistan
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741800
Ah, skating on the thin sheen of pus on the engorged, bubbling sore on the anus of the beast.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741800Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:47:32 -0800BurhanistanBy: hoppytoad
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741828
<a href="http://www.bbcprograms.com/pbs/catalog/Secret%20World%20of%20Haute%20Couture/hautecouturemain.html">The Secret World of Haute Couture</a> gives another look inside the fashion industry. It's up on <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZ2lttwmf34">youtube</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741828Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:58:22 -0800hoppytoadBy: octothorpe
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741830
Is this something that I'd have to wear clothes to understand?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741830Tue, 15 Sep 2009 11:59:10 -0800octothorpeBy: Thorzdad
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741864
It's nice the designers are able to give <a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/models/afohlin/adinafohlin/">meth addicts</a> some work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741864Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:13:33 -0800ThorzdadBy: Bookhouse
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741867
Rarely is ignorance so proudly flaunted on Metafilter as it is in fashion threads.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741867Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:13:45 -0800BookhouseBy: rtha
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741919
Cool. Thanks!comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741919Tue, 15 Sep 2009 12:48:48 -0800rthaBy: lunit
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741951
<a href="http://www.racewire.org/archives/2009/09/fashion_of_color_diversity_bey.html">The race politics.</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741951Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:07:33 -0800lunitBy: Burhanistan
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2741973
<em>It's nice the designers are able to give meth addicts some work.</em>
Gah! I wasn't expecting a real life zombie stare.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2741973Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:24:47 -0800BurhanistanBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742007
A few of my favorite looks
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/badgleymischka/#slide25&ss1">Badgley Mischka</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/chrisbenz/#slide8&ss1">Chris Benz</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/sophietheallet/#slide18&ss1">Sophie Theallet</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/rosacha/#slide14&ss1">Rosa Cha</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/richardchai/#slide24&ss1">Richard Chai</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/dereklam/#slide19&ss1">Derek Lam</a>
<a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/carlosmiele/#slide22&ss1">Carlos Miele</a>comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742007Tue, 15 Sep 2009 13:46:46 -0800kathrinegBy: cmgonzalez
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742232
<em>Gah! I wasn't expecting a real life zombie stare.</em>
Perhaps <a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/models/mtyelna/mashatyelna/">this</a> is better?comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742232Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:09:16 -0800cmgonzalezBy: bad grammar
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742236
Don't be so hard on them. Think of fashion as the ecological refugium of skinny people, with bizarre plumage and barely sublimated mating rituals. It's not supposed to be normal.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742236Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:11:49 -0800bad grammarBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742300
making fun of people for how they look is always clevercomment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742300Tue, 15 Sep 2009 16:54:30 -0800kathrinegBy: Burhanistan
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742313
<em>making fun of people for how they look is always clever</em>
Kneejerks aside, these people are scary zombies and need to be destroyed.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742313Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:00:04 -0800BurhanistanBy: cmgonzalez
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742339
It's more the fact that the fashion industry chooses to exploit these people for those reasons, otherwise why have a "model directory" where you can search by the body part or physical feature the model is known for? Another thing is the industry has in the past 5-7 years or so, gone for a certain homogeneous look in order to further the "model as clothes hanger, do not notice her face" notion. So there's a whole host of Eastern European virtual clones out there on the runway (though this has been changing slightly).
I enjoy fashion, but there are aspects that are up for question, as well as ways to poke fun at that industry's choices.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742339Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:12:04 -0800cmgonzalezBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742349
OK, fair. I get defensive because so many of the models are immigrants and very young immigrants at that.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742349Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:19:01 -0800kathrinegBy: nax
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742355
Thank you. No Kanye, No Joe Wilson, No Health care. You win the internet today.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742355Tue, 15 Sep 2009 17:23:47 -0800naxBy: cmgonzalez
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742433
The fact that so many are that young is a key factor. Besides the more superficial issue of 16 year olds selling clothes to 30 year olds, there's not a little exploitation or pressure happening. A lot of these girls are living a dream and they are making more money than they could've ever imagined, seeing the world, and all that, but there's a lot of damage that can be done. See Crystal Renn, Ali Michael, or more sadly, <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruslana_Korshunova">Ruslana Korshunova</a>, among others.
That said, the frilliness and the fantasy, the creativity on display, and other parts of fashion are fun and the part I enjoy. The whole model as clothes hanger and not human being thing is something I don't; it's dehumanizing. Would also be nice to see a variety of shapes, sizes, ages, and heights out there. Celebrating that fun, creative aspect in a more human, relatable way.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742433Tue, 15 Sep 2009 18:11:11 -0800cmgonzalezBy: zarq
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742538
Nice post. :)
I've been wrangling press backstage at various Fashion Week shows for the last 6 days. I'll be very, very happy when it's all over in a day or two.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742538Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:03:43 -0800zarqBy: zarq
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742543
Also, <a href="http://www.fashionweekdaily.com/">The Daily</a> is probably an easier source for industry / fashion week news than WWD for the casual reader. Most of the content on WWD is for subscribers only.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742543Tue, 15 Sep 2009 20:07:04 -0800zarqBy: debbie_ann
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742822
<a href="http://www.nytimes.com/packages/html/style/fashionweek/runway.html">Donna Karen!</a> ♥comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742822Wed, 16 Sep 2009 03:54:45 -0800debbie_annBy: oinopaponton
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2742861
Not that impressed with Marc Jacobs's shows, but holy shit, <a href="http://nymag.com/fashion/fashionshows/2010/spring/main/newyork/womenrunway/rodarte/">Rodarte</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2742861Wed, 16 Sep 2009 04:57:47 -0800oinopapontonBy: kathrineg
http://www.metafilter.com/85060/Fashion-Survivors#2743214
His Marc by Marc Jacobs was okay, but the other...oy
Rodarte is incredibly swampalicious, I would love to see video of thatcomment:www.metafilter.com,2009:site.85060-2743214Wed, 16 Sep 2009 09:23:10 -0800kathrineg
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