Comments on: Scott Jordan, urban archeologist

Scott Jordan, urban archeologist

nickyskye — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:02:59 -0800

Urban archaeologist Scott Jordan has spent his whole life uncovering New York City's remains: I have been digging for New York's artifacts since 1969. My first dig was on Governor's Island, which was my father's duty station, and I stumbled upon a time capsule of New York's military history in the moat of old Fort Jay. In the dirt under the old drawbridge were relics dating from the War of 1812 all the way to the Civil War including buttons, musket balls and bullets, coins, pottery, and even a small cannon ball.

Some of his beautiful antique bottles

By: Namlit

Namlit — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 12:55:54 -0800

Wow, what a level of dedication. I once spent five weeks of a summer vacation co-digging huge holes in the bends and banks of the Susquehanna under guidance of an archeologist from the college nearby, so I know about the dirt part; but we found a single pottery shard, one bullet and an elderly soda can and nothing else. Apart from that the most ancient bit around was his 1962 Buick. This is cool. Also some of those bottles are truly beautiful.

By: Think_Long

Think_Long — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 13:07:36 -0800

What a fantastic lifestyle. I wonder if some more "mainstream" academic archaeologists have problems with his work and lack of method. I'm one of those people who is fascinated by found artifacts, whether it's in the gutter or buried in the dirt. It amazes me how much stuff is buried (and continues to be buried) by us, and all that I need to do is get a shovel and a little gumption. And a permit. And a cultural resource management license. And the property owner's permission. And some luck.

By: twsf

twsf — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 13:11:51 -0800

Awesome - that guy deserves a MacArthur fellowship.

By: 1000monkeys

1000monkeys — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:16:24 -0800

This is really cool. I studied anthropology/archaeology and I did a month-long dig in the Carribean and man was it hot and boring. Archaeology can be pretty darn tedious and not nearly as exciting or sexy as certain movies will have you think it is. Though we did find some cool animal remains and a few broken pot pieces. But something like Urban Archaeology seems far more interesting and relevant on a more immediate level.

By: Faze

Faze — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 14:39:49 -0800

The Flea Market he sells his artifacts at (in the schoolyard at 76th and Columbus) is itself a kind of historic artifact, having been there for almost as long as I can remember, and not changing all that much over almost 40 years. It's my favorite flea market anywhere.

By: The Whelk

The Whelk — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 15:51:06 -0800

I got to that Flea market almost every week and I keep saving for friend's birthdays and holidays to buy his wonderful found glass.

By: EmpressCallipygos

EmpressCallipygos — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:37:14 -0800

Ironically, I was ON Governors' Island just today; even though they've fixed up a lot of sites on the outside, if you peep through windows here and there you can see lots of empty rooms with crumbling plaster, but here and there the occasional...thing, like a wicker chair or a toaster or something. I'm not surprised he got his start there.

By: flyingsquirrel

flyingsquirrel — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:52:22 -0800

i love it when people bother to notice the hidden mysteries in the garbage and detritus that surround us. this story reminded me of the artifacts to be found littering the beaches of dead horse bay, in brooklyn. it's where robert moses dumped the belongings of all the people he'd displaced when building the BQE. along the beaches you'll find hundreds of antique bottles, children's toys, old shoes, bits of brightly colored glass, combs, rusty roller skates, and a couple of old boats sinking into the sand -- along with slices of horse bone, left over from a long-gone 19th-century horse rendering plant (before the arrival of trains and cars, it's believed that the city had more horses than people). the place is creepy and fascinating, in a living-history kind of way. it's also open to the public (but it's protected land, so you're not supposed to take anything from the beach). i went there earlier this year on a tour with robin nagle, an anthropologist and NYU professor, and howard warren, another anthropologist whose passion for nyc's history is matched only by writer pete hamill.

By: circular

circular — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 17:56:43 -0800

"It belongs in a museum!" *Grabs it and runs off*

By: grajohnt

grajohnt — Sat, 09 Oct 2010 23:06:00 -0800

If this is of interest to you, and you ever find yourself in London, be sure to give yourself some time to do some mudlarking. Basically, go down to the Thames at low tide, and see what is washed up on the banks. You are guaranteed to find some 17th century clay pipe stems, and if you're lucky, a nearly intact pipe. If you walk down the stairs under the Millenium Bridge on the St. Paul's side, there's a pretty good bank right there. I have an intact clay pipe that I found from that spot (it is the 17th century equivalent of cigarette butts, but being a few hundred years old makes it cool again, amiright?)

By: SaharaRose

SaharaRose — Sun, 10 Oct 2010 07:37:44 -0800

Thank you so much for posting this. I dearly love New York history, keep telling myself I'm going to study it extensively and for real.

By: nTeleKy

nTeleKy — Mon, 11 Oct 2010 15:02:42 -0800

Wow, those collages are a really neat way to make interesting folk art out of otherwise unusable refuse. He's a really interesting character, thanks for the video. There is an extraordinary amount of interlacing in that video, though.

By: barnacles

barnacles — Thu, 14 Oct 2010 14:01:22 -0800

Think_Long: "What a fantastic lifestyle. I wonder if some more "mainstream" academic archaeologists have problems with his work and lack of method." Rumple and I hashed this over a few years ago in another thread about amateur "archaeologists" like this guy, and the answer is a simple yes. Yes, we do. My comment linked there is directly applicable to this guy's vandalism as well.