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Comments on MetaFilter post Really Neat ApplicationWed, 12 Jan 2011 19:36:01 -0800Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:36:01 -0800en-ushttp://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/rss60Really Neat Application
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application
<a href="http://eterna.cmu.edu/content/EteRNA">EterRNA</a> (reg. req) is a game, of sorts, that asks you to design complex new ribonucleic acid (RNA) molecules, with the chance to have your efforts synthesised by Stanford University. A successor to the protein-folding of <a href="http://fold.it/">FoldIt</a>. There's some background info at the <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/11/science/11rna.html?_r=2"> NYT</a>.post:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:32:59 -0800SparxsciencegameflashrnastanfordcarnegiemelloneternaBy: OverlappingElvis
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3462770
Nice, I was going to post this tonight. The puzzle aspect of it is super engaging, but I wish there was a bit more explanation of the science behind it - why does the RNA curl the way it does, for example?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3462770Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:36:01 -0800OverlappingElvisBy: ~Sushma~
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3462876
...a curling Fe?comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3462876Wed, 12 Jan 2011 20:43:13 -0800~Sushma~By: doublehappy
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463242
This is one of those puzzle games where I just seem to muddle through for 20 minutes and then just as I'm getting into it I hit a spot where it becomes apparent that I have absolutely no idea how to play the game or solve puzzles or even which one is G and which one is U. I enjoyed the first 20 minutes* though. Wish I understood the science. Just another subject to add to my list.
<small><small>*18 minutes, actually.</small></small>comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463242Thu, 13 Jan 2011 01:48:39 -0800doublehappyBy: kersplunk
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463261
This is great. Only problem is it's distracting from my actual biology software work.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463261Thu, 13 Jan 2011 02:48:57 -0800kersplunkBy: NMcCoy
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463319
As a game designer, I'm really, really impressed with how playable this is, given the source material.
I'm also a bit miffed that it's keeping me awake, when I have plans to demonstrate one of my own games at a game store tomorrow.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463319Thu, 13 Jan 2011 05:05:40 -0800NMcCoyBy: DavidandConquer
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463396
What an odd metafilter thread-->more favorites than comments!
I'll take that to be a good sign ;)comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463396Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:26:14 -0800DavidandConquerBy: exogenous
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463403
Cool. I don't remember them teaching us about the G-U <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wobble_base_pair">wobble pair</a>.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463403Thu, 13 Jan 2011 06:41:27 -0800exogenousBy: euphorb
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3463572
<em>The puzzle aspect of it is super engaging, but I wish there was a bit more explanation of the science behind it - why does the RNA curl the way it does, for example?</em>
The RNA folds up because it's prefers to form double stranded structures compared to single stranded ones. This is because in the double stranded form the bases are stacked up over each other instead of exposed to water. Just like oil when mixed with water will quickly separate into two layers, the nonpolar bases prefer to have as little surface exposed to the water as possible.
The rules of RNA secondary structure folding (base pairing) are very straightforward and secondary structure can be predicted with reasonable accuracy especially when compared to proteins. However the tertiary structure (3 dimensional folding) is not so straightforward and I'm curious to see how that game handles that aspect.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3463572Thu, 13 Jan 2011 08:30:06 -0800euphorbBy: not_on_display
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3465411
GUAC!comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3465411Fri, 14 Jan 2011 08:23:45 -0800not_on_displayBy: xchmp
http://www.metafilter.com/99456/Really-Neat-Application#3467303
Just created <a href="http://eterna.cmu.edu/content/foldme">FoldMe</a>, a group for Mefites playing this, should anyone wants to join.comment:www.metafilter.com,2011:site.99456-3467303Sat, 15 Jan 2011 07:15:32 -0800xchmp
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