I'll use this thread to say (since I avoided a derail in another thread) that I love my subreddits and by and large they are nicer and discussion is more focused than here. posted by warriorqueen at 8:21 AM on September 28 [12 favorites]
The big blob on the bottom isn't just porn, it's a lot of other subreddits having to do with culture and sexuality. All of the mainstream discussion gay subreddits (like /r/AskGayBrosOver30) are lumped in there too, many of them have strict no-erotica policies. They're for discussion, not gooning.
The clustering makes sense to me, the gay forums do have a lot of overlap to the porn forums. And it's nice how the discussion forums are grouped closer to GayBrosGoneMild than GayBrosGoneWild. I could just do without the stigma of anonymity. I'm also curious what the big clusters of porn are but it's too hard to read on the censored version.
BTW the "street view" button is interesting and something I've never seen on a visualization like this. I can't link it directly but click the button in upper left here (SFW). posted by Nelson at 9:03 AM on September 28 [2 favorites]
There's no rule against linking to a link to a thing that I'm aware of, but it's usually good practice to link to the site directly.
Moving on. I'm saddened that so many people have essentially decided to forgive big old now-corporate Reddit for firing their volunteer staff, charging huge sums for API access basically killing off the third-party client ecosystem, loading their site with ads and selling their users out to AI scrapers, and a host of other evil things, for the simple reason that a bunch of people go there. This is another facet of the big turd of enshittification: most movements soon lose their energy, the companies have learned this, and they choose to just wait out public approbation.
That's why payment processors have held the line on their atrocious banning of adult and queer work. Disney hasn't completely learned it yet, which is why they backpedaled on un-suspending Jimmy Kimmel, panicking when their stock price dipped in reaction, instead of just waiting for everyone to forget about it when the next Mandalorian came out or some shit. posted by JHarris at 9:04 AM on September 28 [10 favorites]
I don't consider boycotting the only form of protest, and I don't consider cutting off communication in general a wise decision at this time. I also get drugs from drug companies, food from food companies, clothing from clothing companies, and gas from oil companies. You may add to my sins that despite largely operating on reusable containers and water bottles, I occasionally do forget my water and buy bottled water or other single-use plastic products.
I have no issue with people who feel differently, and I support you continuing to mention it in this thread but I do think it's funny that people are obsessed with online platforms as their area of moral distinction. But carry on. posted by warriorqueen at 1:51 PM on September 28 [4 favorites]
Reddit has become the venue for thousands of local/city/neighborhood/regional forums. Some subreddits are better moderated than others but for the most part if you want to know what's going on where you live it's the only reasonable alternative to Facebook. It's more than whether Reddit being the lesser of two evils -- it's more accessible and easier to use. posted by at by at 2:05 PM on September 28 [3 favorites]
The difference here is that you need drugs and food, but you don't need to hang out on a single evil website, especially since there is literally the entire rest of the Internet as an alternative. People hanging out there en masse is Reddit's one advantage. It's just a big message board--and it's the one that used to host r/The_Donald.
Believe it or not I find reminding people of this at least as tiresome as those people do being reminded of it. I HATE doing this. Having done it, I plan to shut the hell up about it and do something else that doesn't annoy literally every person involved.
But I felt like I still had to do it. Otherwise people will forget that much faster, myself one of them. Internet energy dissipates quickly, and I'm tired of every major website bring the lesser of a number of evils. posted by JHarris at 2:07 PM on September 28 [4 favorites]
Yes, I think we've had this discussion before. For me, connecting with people outside of my family and friends is a big social need and connecting with my community - on FB and Reddit - is still well worth the quota of evil. It's helpful personally and it also helps me with key life questions related to caregiving.
And Reddit these days is beating MetaFilter hands down on quality (both depth of discussion and staying on topic as well as general usefulness) and on kindness. I like it better and am slowly moving my online time towards Reddit and away from here. I'm just explaining the calculus for you.
II think it's completely fine to discuss Reddit's history in a Reddit thread by the way. It's the threads that go on about platforms that aren't about that that tire me out.) posted by warriorqueen at 2:35 PM on September 28 [4 favorites]
warriorqueen: "Reddit these days is beating MetaFilter hands down on quality"
That's not quite my experience: Metafilter's discussion quality can still be great. But Reddit is of course enormously bigger: it gets ~1M new posts a day, compared to our ~100. Most of it is garbage. But in the well moderated subreddits there are plenty of good posts. And all that volume means a lot of diversity. I'm finding it particularly useful for discussions among gay men in certain niches like LateBloomerGayBros.
That's why this map visualization is so interesting to me, it hints at being able to find related subcommunities. Reddit has never had great discoverability and this is another useful tool for that. posted by Nelson at 7:11 AM on September 29 [3 favorites]
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posted by MtDewd at 5:41 AM on September 28 [1 favorite]